New GeForce GTX 280!

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ssj12 said:

Soleron said:
The Radeon 4850 completely destroys the competition and also beats cards that are $100 (9800GTX) or even $200 (GTX 260) more expensive.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14967

Your GTX 280 ($649) is beaten by 4850 Crossfire ($398).

 

And your point? of course crossfire on a new generation of cards will top a high-end card thats basically a mid-generation card. Lets have a game that actually takes advantage of CUDA as nothing does at the moment and then lets see what happens. From what I can guess CUDA will be nVidia's trump card.

Do you actually know anything about computers?

CUDA has almost nothing to do with gaming. I'll repeat that so you can understand it; Nothing. Its purpose is to run desktop programs on the GPU, which is great if you need to run an operation that takes advantage of a GPUs strength. AMD/ATI has its own system of doing the same thing called Close To Metal. Neither of these will likely ever be used in games in the foreseeable future, if ever. There is a plethora of reasons why that should be pretty damn obvious, but based on your apparent knowledge of computer tech its not surprising that you think CUDA is some sort of magic bullet.

Havok on AMD GPUs is a different beast then CUDA altogether. Although if CUDA does anything for gaming it will be simplifying physics on the GPU. Anyways back to AMD: basically they're making it easy to run havok accelerated physics on the GPU. The problem is at this point communication between the CPU and GPU tends to be slow. So if the GPU runs any physics calculations that change the game environment - say a pillar falling on the ground- then this information needs to be sent to the CPU so the CPU will know that the AI has to walk around the pillar, or to know when the player runs into it. Since this would be something of a bottleneck its likely that all GPU physics in the near future will be purely eye candy and "game changing" physics will still be on the CPU. Eventually physics will be all on the GPU, but not with this generation of cards.

Oh, and the fact that Nvidia is trumping up CUDA tells you that even they know that they have a bomb on their hands. They were caught complacent and are now stuck trying to push an outdated design on the public at an outrageous price. Unfortunatly for Nvidia the competition stepped up their game, designed a truly next gen GPU, and was able to get the process down to very good yields.

I can't wait to see 4870 crossfire, then 4870X2. Nvidia is going to have its ass handed to them, especially at the high end.