Machiavellian said:
No, I am not mistaken. I do agree his plea deal is with federal prosecutors but nowhere do I see Muller or his team involved with his plea. Since tax, banking and finance violations are federal charges its a federal case but if you can find anywhere Mueller team is part of the plea deal then you might have something. Right now, this is a case about Cohen not the president. If anything goes further then we may see Mueller team get involved. I do not consider Trump is a criminal because of this stuff. I believe he is a criminal because a host of crap before he ever ran for president. I only see this as just another list of stuff to throw on the pile of stuff for this con man. I actually believe this will never come to court but who knows, it will depend on what other evidence the prosecutors have and the severity of the violation. The president is not above the law. Trump cannot be implicated unless he was dumb enough to put himself in that spot. Everything up to this point is all his fault and I can easily trace very single dumb stupid move he has done to get to this point. Maybe if he could find a day he doesn't have to lie, cheat, steal he would not even be in this mess. Just maybe if he came out and told the Truth the first time on that Tower meeting. Maybe if he didn't send that hush money concerning all his affairs and just admitted to his faults and went about his business. It's never the act that's the problem, its the lies and cover up that amplify those acts. You are just another enabler. Always looking to blame others for this man's action. He made the decisions and lies that put him hear and he is reaping what lies do.
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You are mistaken in your portrayal of his “doing the right thing”. His hand prints are all over this, he doesn’t need to be there but it’s his plea deal. Why do you think Cohen is begging to talk to the special counsel now and Mueller is blowing him off? Because he is nobody, mueller got what he wanted and left New York to do the mercy kill with unpardonable state charges. They fucking destroyed this dude and still don’t have any evidence on Trump as a reason to exist lol. “Still looking!” I have no pity for Cohen, good riddance. The only thing worse than a politician is a scummy lawyer and this circus is full of them.
Technically it’s the deputy AGs plea deal but that goofball is just the placeholder that let his rabid dog off of the leash. Mueller is the effective AG unofficially and unconstitutionally. He is more powerful than any US attorney that had to be confirmed by the senate. Sessions is probably the biggest travesty in the Trump presidency, what a useless boob.
This is the mueller plea deal though make no mistake, the initial raid came from way high up, even though it was in the hands of the NY DA they used the mueller investigation to get to his tax fraud. He plead guilty to bogus campaign fraud charges, not his uncovered tax frauds. For a plea deal, so they can plaster their bullshit on newspapers. It will never go to trial to be proven, the federal case is over it’s a plea deal. The Deputy AG rose stein aka the mueller mouthpiece and rubber stamp did that. Some random NY DA can’t raid the presidents lawyers house and office, your context is way off on this one. It’s the president man, he is not Trump to me he is article 2. Trump will be gone soon one way or another, all presidents have and will and that’s how it’s supposed to be. Articles 1, 2 and 3 are treated as a joke and it’s not a good thing. For anyone. He is above everyone in the executive branch and congress created federal courts and the DOJ. Which laws did he step above? You still haven’t named any Russia or otherwise. If you nullify your foundation you are in the Wild West again. The people who want that wouldn’t like what they get, they would be the first to go because of their dependency. It doesn’t take long to destroy a community or a society, the examples are endless.
Ok what crimes did did he commit before being president? How does that justify the existence of the initial counter intelligence investigation? The initial raid on Cohen was the Prague bullshit in the unproven steele dossier. I didn’t ignore that either, it’s in the first post you responded to. The raid was a Russian thing, until it wasn’t. Same with manafort. So they use this thing to get fisa warrants and raid the presidents lawyers office like Capone lol. Nothing to see here, but stop dismissing accusations. How many congressmen do you think would be left standing if they went through a cavity search like this? My guess is very few.
Is that why they give immunity to the long time Trump cfo? It’s not that they want to dissect the trump organization based on a legal NDA agreement lol. If you can’t get him on Russian collusion (murder) then get him on campaign fraud (tax fraud). How predictably pathetic. Scavanging the earth like their lives depend on it and Trump is still standing? How? How is trump this clean, it’s unusual lol. The only questionable thing about Trump is why he would trust such a lowlife in the first place. It makes me question his judgement even though the pressure was ridiculous. The weight of the FED coming down on one person isn’t a pretty sight. Cohens head hunters aren’t any better, they are made of the same slippery shit.
That other republican that was charged can’t wait to go to trial lol. People need to start fighting back in court, yes it will ruin your family and financials but I believe our country depends on it. Make these assholes prove their bullshit and accusations instead of pleading guilty to made up crimes. Cohens situation was useless, they check mated his ass with lethal efficiency. They didn’t get the one you really want though, sorry. Hope and change my dude.
Last edited by boozehound - on 24 August 2018
