Hiku said:
bananaking21 said:
Dice went out and stated that their reasoning for the inclusion of women on the front line and black dudes with katana (seriously, a fucking katana) is to support their political agenda. Which is inclusion and diversity. Now those two political agendas are good. But in this case they came in the way of artists integrity. You need to accept that a lot of people have an issue with that, and not with women in games.
I for one find it rather insulting that Dice and EA couldn't include a rather realistic story about women on that era in Battlefield 5. Instead of trying to accurately portay the women of WW2 and their stories and actual struggles, they had to dismiss the women of that time because they don't fit the "PC" view of women today. and had to make a "badass" woman who can "do what ever a man can do" and have her for some reason have a prosthetic arm.
Instead of portraying the real women of WW2 they gave us a joke of a character. If a WW2 setting isn't "PC" enough for them, then don't fucking make one, if they want a fictional WW2 setting, then go all out on it and make a decent fictional WW2 like Wolfenstien, nobody is complaining that there were female soldiers in that game.
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If you're referring to the tweet I'm thinking of, they said they do everything they can to be inclusive and diverse. But they're also no doubt aware of the fact that many players like myself like playing as female characters some times, even though I'm not female. It's just for aesthetic reasons.
I'd accept that some people have issues with these things if the other historically inaccurate scenarios of the Battlefield series garnered even a fraction of the same backlash.
I can ask the same question about the Zeppelin. They were actually used by Germany in World War 1. Couldn't Dice have written a realistic story about how they were handled in the war? Instead they wrote a story scenario about how the main character's plane gets shot down, crash lands on the zeppelin, then they walk around on top of it while its flying. And other planes come crashing down on it right in front of them, creating holes that let them jump down to the interior, and then take it over from the inside.
It's absolutely ridiculous. Not only did that obviously never really happen, but it's not even realistic. It's the kind of thing you'd expect from a Bond film.
And as if that wasn't bad enough, the main characters jump off the Zeppelin while it's up in the sky, without a parachute, and somehow survive without a scratch because they landed in water... (Water is almost like pavement if you jump from that height. They were above the clouds.)
And people were so outraged about this historically inaccurate (and unrealistic) scenario that they made a grand total of 0 topics to complain about it.
Meanwhile we've had several topics on the issue of a woman soldier fighting for England rather than Russia or whichever other nations had them on the front lines.
And people are livid about this. It's not the way people normally react when they don't like something about a game. Something about women and minorities get people really riled up to the point where they start boycotting campaigns and want it to fail.
Like Dice said, if you want a historical portrayal of things like that, don't count on it from their Battlefield games. They leave that to other developers.
You mentioned artists integrity, which reminds me, if they had stuck to trying to keep things historically accurate, then they would limit their creative freedom in what kind of story they could have written for this soldier. They've never worried about that in the previous Battlefield games.
The mechanical hand and katana are silly, out of place and over the top. Whether people like or dislike the arm and the katana is understandable. But it shouldn't come as a big surprise to anyone who has played through previous Battlefield games that they take liberties with the story and characters.
Metal Gear Solid is also based around real events from history, albeit much more loosely, since the focus of the story takes place entirely within fictive events.
But whether you implement one scenario that never happened, or fifty, in both cases you end up with a game that isn't historically accurate. You can't just change some historical events, but not others. Either fully commit to portray an accurate retelling of events, or do whatever you want. Dice never intended to do the former with the Battlefield series.
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