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Alara317 said:
Lawlight said:

Why are you bringing up your sex in the conversation? I don’t think anyone here cares whether you’re male or female.

Because I find it appalling that there are people out there who feel that women don't deserve basic dignity, just like how gay folk might use their sexuality as a way to relate to an oppressed people. Seems almost like a personal attack when people act like it's just okay to let Saudi Arabia treat women the way they do. That is all.

Actually I do prefer that people have basic dignity - in my own country. See I'd much rather live here in the west than in the middle east, with many of the reasons being for that the ones you listed. However I'm against western nations imposing my ideals and preferences on other nations. These countries have oppressed women and gays for thousands of years in some cases, hundreds in most. Heck beating your kids, having child labor and women being second class citizens was the way of the land here in the US until just recently. We changed it, not because some outside country forced us but because as a culture we decided to. 

I'm for every country making decisions for themselves. If a country doesnt want to let women drive thats their business. If countries cant make their own decisions then why even have them? Those decisions dont only include taxes, language and social programs. They include all aspects of culture. From their point of view we're the decadent, fallen society, and from our POV they're the backwards culture. See I don't like to pretend that my POV is the correct one and impose it on others. Virtue signalling is attractive, but people forget that virtues and vices vary from culture to culture and person to person. You seem to think that your way is the only way, and you're going to shove it down everyone elses throat. You're all about tolerance, but ironically you have an incapability of seeing anyone else's POV. The fact that you get so angry over a random forum discussion speaks to that. I'm not making any laws or curtailing your freedoms. I'm expressing a contrary view point and that's setting you off.

If SA wants to execute people and not let women drive that's their business. I wouldn't tolerate that here in the US, but that's why I'm not moving to SA any time soon. And just like I wouldnt tolerate that kind of culture in my country, so wouldn't SA tolerate our own culture in their own country. It's pretty simple.