Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well if there are white supremacist groups making a ruckus, the media would love to cover it. I mean if the KKK and Nazis came together to harass democrats at restaurants, I'd like to think we would see some coverage.

I saw plenty of coverage during Trumps campaign where some groups were giving the Nazi salute to trump.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38057104/hail-trump-white-nationalists-mark-trump-win-with-nazi-salute

I am not even American and I saw it, which says it all.

Mr Puggsly said:

I despise the left, they've become an extreme party. That's not just my view by the way, the wackiness of the left is arguably moving republicans to the center.

Well. The left isn't a party, so that's a mistake on your behalf.

The left is fine, the right is fine, it's just the far-left and far-right are shifting and becoming more vocal, which in-turn is grating to some people.
End of the day... Regardless of how much anyone whinges and complains about the left or right... Both political divides will continue to exist as long as people do.

More people in the center isn't a bad thing either.


Mr Puggsly said:

Cost effective healthcare generally means long waits

I can assure you with 100% certainty that you are wrong.
How do I know? Because I work in emergency services in a system that is universal and cost effective.

Mr Puggsly said:

 and government deciding what is essential.

It's not as black and white as that.

Mr Puggsly said:

 Also, a lot of countries opt for a mix of socialized and private healthcare because often the social option kinda sucks. Otherwise everybody would just go with the social option.

My own country has a mixed system. And the social option is fantastic.
What happens is once you exceed a certain tax thresh-hold, the social option will no longer be free, thus making private healthcare the more viable option.
The more you know.

Socialized healthcare in my country not only provides a better standard of care, lower wait times... But it does so at a lower price.
If I was to injure myself, I could walk into the hospital and get it looked at straight away.

The mixed system still causes the healthcare budget to account for over 10% of our GDP. And that’s increasing every year. Last year the expenditure on healthcare growth was 3.6%, lower than the 4.7% 4-year average but still high compared to our real GDP growth of 2.7%. It won’t be long before it becomes unsustainable.

As for the quality of the social option, I’ve never used it and cannot comment on its quality. Hopefully I never have to.