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John2290 said:

I hope you're not Americans because that is that stupidest thinking I've heard in the whole despise Trump movement. Even if you aren't Americans it's still pretty repugnant, You rather watch a country burn and a great many people around the world suffer financially, many perhaps tipping the edge into life threatening poverty just to spite Trump, see him fail so you can feel better about hating him. That's some sick, dark twisted stuff.

Thinking that getting the inevitable over with is stupid? Thinking that letting the people responsible for a bad thing take the blame for it is twisted? Wanting the people that can correct the bad thing in power when it happens is repugnant? Wanting the USA and Western democracies to come out on top over brutal dictatorships when the dust settles is dark? Because that's what we want to happen, and we're just trying to be practical about a bad situation precisely because we DO care about our country. We aren't cheering for the demise of our economy for shits and giggles. I'm in the lower third of incomes in America, so an economic collapse would hurt me most. But it's going to happen whether Trump was elected in 2016 or not, it's just that his policies are making it worse and turning what could have been a normal recession into something much worse, so I don't want him reelected or he'll make it worse still. Also note that as I think some sort of collapse is coming and that it will be global, I want to make sure the USA and our values of freedom and democracy come out on top, which if you'd read my whole comment you'd understand.

Don't be so quick to judge. Try to see things from our perspective. I see your perspective, I just disagree with it. I don't give him credit for North Korea, and I don't give him credit for the current good performance of the economy. I understand that you do and thus think he has "made America great again" but I think he's damaging us economically and crippling our ability to respond to future crises, and that the progress on North Korea is an illusion and America is being played for suckers. I don't call you a sick traitor just because you disagree with my assessment that Trump is leading America to permanent decline. If I'm right, and you knew he was doing so but supported him anyway, that would certainly make you a sick, twisted traitor, but I know you don't want bad things for our country, so I don't hate you for being, from my perspective, misguided. I don't hate you, I just think you're wrong. Try to extend us the same courtesy. We don't want America's demise, we just think economic ruin is coming and want what we believe are the right people to be in power to save us from complete demise and to come out on top in the end. We love this country just as much as you do, and want it to prosper just as much as you do.