derpysquirtle64 said:
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Er. Consoles use already-established hardware design libraries as a basis for their SoC's.
It's not like these chips are being built from the ground up for these machines.
derpysquirtle64 said:
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AMD can also do Ray Tracing.
Games today are leveraging Ray Tracing.
Games from the Xbox 360/Playstation 3 era were leveraging Ray Tracing.
100% Ray Tracing will not be feasible even next gen.
derpysquirtle64 said:
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Nor do they need to. nVidia has it's own CPU designs based on ARM. Aka. Denver.
derpysquirtle64 said:
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False. See above.
derpysquirtle64 said:
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False. See above.
derpysquirtle64 said:
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You don't need the same CPU and GPU architecture to retain backwards compatability.
PC only has been doing it for a quarter of a century.
On the CPU side you have Binary Translation, on the GPU side you can abstract.
derpysquirtle64 said:
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nVidia isn't going to happen.
Why? Price.
haxxiy said: Uhhhh, shouldn't AMD actually be the ones getting paid by MS to develop and provide them custom hardware, instead of the other way around? >:) |
AMD has multiple Teams working on CPU's and GPU's, they are working on chips that we won't even see for a decade, AMD is most certainly is working on Navi's successor.
HollyGamer said: You guys forgot , Intel now are making a GPU AMD can do ray tracing either, and they have been in the development for this tech. Also Navi is for PS5 while Vega for Apple product, that's what i read back then.
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Navi and Vega is for the PC.
It just so happens AMD was able to sell that hardware into other markets.
HoloDust said: Highly unlikely - nVidia's GPUs are always more expensive than AMDs, plus nVidia doesn't have x86 license. |
nVidia doesn't need one.
Bofferbrauer2 said: Doubt it AMD can bring them an all-in-one concept with Motherboard, GPU and CPU all from one hand. NVidia however is stuck to ARM for the CPU, which can't keep up with X86 CPUs (and would seriously bottleneck a 4K console), plus NVidia are generally more expensive. An Intel/NVidia or even IBM/NVidia (with the new POWER9 CPUs) are technically possible, but would be much more expensive and/or more complicated to port to |
ARM can best x86, if you take the Core wide and fast enough, just no company has seen a compelling business case for it.
Apple has made some very large and fast ARM cores that could probably give Intel Core and Ryzen a run for it's money at the same frequency.
derpysquirtle64 said: The rumour has it that they develop it specifically for the needs of PS5. Doesn't mean it can't be used later in desktops. |
The rumor is flat out wrong.
Navi is Graphics Core Next based, which has existed on the market since 2011, this is just an iterative update.
And prior to 2011, Graphics Core Next would have spent years in development, so we could be looking at 6th gen consoles when AMD was working on Graphics Core Next. - But somehow it was designed for the Playstation 5? Not buying it.
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