Antifa Protestors Throw Garbage at Conservatives Eating Breakfast.

[DonFerrari]

Helloplite said:

To o_O.Q: had written a response for you, but I have decided it is utterly meaningless to engage in conversation with you. You are ignorant and lack reading comprehension. You fail to even comprehend the difference between a normative desire or moral argument, and an ontological reality -- conflating the two and dragging this conversation down. You insist on adding stuff that I have not said to my position (e.g. on whether workers and bosses should be equal), conflate equality with "leftism" (a condescending tag lumping together a variety of different ideologies), have produced no coherent position of your own, and your best efforts have been spent on finding amusing gifs to illustrate points that you do not have (what is now so commonly called an ‘ad hominem attack’ in these parts).

So, I will entirely avoid responding to you, and simply participate in the wider conversation on this topic. You are really not worth my time.

 

My position to the general topic is the following:

 

1. Antifa is an oxymoronic movement. They are literally the antifascist fascists. Still a million times better than radical right-wing movements and groups, but depressive nevertheless. Gilles Deleuze, described this as 'microfascism', and if unchecked can lead to full-blown fascism.

2. You can't make omelette without breaking a few eggs. Those who deplore such groups for 'protesting violently' are hypocrites themselves. The whole idea of a 'peaceful protest' is borne from the same kind of neoliberal-capitalist mindset in which all social conflict must be restricted to the 'institutional' arrangements and systems in place, namely elections and the 'peaceful' civil society. Society is never so neat, and containing politics exclusively to parliaments is effectively the death of real politics. So yeah, of course protest will be violent, eruptive, uncontrollable, and impossible to fully contain. Furthermore, whenever we attempt to constrain protest and activist action, no matter the source, we engage ourselves in the same kind of totalitarian thinking. A protest is a protest is a protest. It is not there to sugar-coat things, or to act 'civil', as if we are all nobles sat on thrones. 'Civility' is a highly problematic as a concept, and stems from aristocratic conceptions. For the same reason, 'political correctness' is a repressive idea. You can never contain fully all of the excess in society, no matter where it is coming from. Doing so, including restricting the right to speak and to think, only generates further disillusionment and protest down the road.

 

Except no one have Carte Blanche to attack others or destroy public/private property during their protests. But as rightly stated in this thread if the protest was made by Nazi, KKK or right wing movements they would face the consequences. When it's done by Antifa, BLM or other left wing movements it is defended and uphold.