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Alara317 said:
o_O.Q said:

i'm the one who cares that millions of people have died due to western interference, whereas you just want to sweep that under the rug and i come across as heartless and ignorant of these issues? lol ok

What are you even on about? this has nothing to do with 'western interference in the middle east'. This thread, and my comments in it, have always been about how terribly Saudi Arabia treats women (and gays, but mostly women) due to an interaction where they jailed a Canadian woman who was advocating women's rights and Canada said they didn't like that much and that they 'strongly urge' Saudi officials to let them go. Canada never had any intention of getting involved in a war, instigating armed conflict, or even threatening; that's just not what Canada does. 

THAT SAID, I do think Saudi Arabia is in the wrong, less about them getting mad at Canadian officials for telling them off and more for being a shit nation with a shit history of shitty treatment of women. Their tantrum just made them look even less mature and more backwards than they did before. 

I even said in another post that I didn't wish for violence, but that something needed to be done about their shitty policies and human rights violations, specifically wishing that they just cut out the barbaric shit they have perpetuated through sheer pressure from every first world country. Violence is not the answer, That's both my stance and Canada's, but that doesn't mean action can't be taken to positively impact change, and last I checked Canada's interference in Middle Eastern politics has been that of an ally or peacekeeper, not an aggressor shooting schools or bombing busses...like Saudi Arabia supposedly did to the students of a neighbouring nation. (I have to check the research on that one but I've heard it spoken multiple times from sources I trust independant of one another.) 

Stop trying to muddle the issue, move the goalposts, or otherwise switch the topic to justify your points. I repeat, this makes you come across as heartless and in many ways ignorant.

"What are you even on about? this has nothing to do with 'western interference in the middle east'. "

" Saudi Arabia is a despicable nation who does despicable things and action needs to be taken against them"

the actions canada has taken recently were bombings in conjunction with the united states and other western powers over the "rights" of the people

 

"but that something needed to be done about their shitty policies and human rights violations"

which has resulted in millions dead and under the rule of warlords in other middle eastern countries... have you been living under a rock for the past few decades?

 

"That's both my stance and Canada's"

it may be yours but given that canada has assisted in bombing other middle eastern countries to spread "democracy" it certainly is not canada's

 

"Stop trying to muddle the issue"

bringing up the millions of lives lost is simply muddling the issue... and i'm the heartless one... ok

 

"move the goalposts"

goalposts? when did we start playing football? what is this supposed to mean?

 

"otherwise switch the topic to justify your points"

i don't see how you can rationally claim i'm going off topic