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o_O.Q said:
WhatATimeToBeAlive said:

"The problem occurs when either side takes their particular doctrine too far and this results in intolerance and trampling of rights in different ways."

I agree with that, but equality is still much better than hierarchy. And equality has never been implimented 100%. Hierarchy on the other hand often leads to shitty/deathly result. 

"We saw that in its most extreme form in the soviet union, communist china etc etc etc where millions died." How are the people equal in a dictatorship were the few are on the top and the rest are practically slaves?   

"I agree with that, but equality is still much better than hierarchy."

oh ok so.. do we need to desegregate women's and men's sports?

take away the special protections women have in the law against sexual violence?

take away most of your possessions and give them to the homeless?

those methods would all promote equality so why not?

 

"How are the people equal in a dictatorship were the few are on the top and the rest are practically slaves?   "

how do you suppress the differences that people naturally they have which would normally lead to hierarchy without some type of control system?

 

seriously where are you absorbing these ridiculously incoherent ideas from? school?

Eeer... No. Those methods won't promote equality. You don't understand what equality is.

 

To answer your questions:

 

1. Why not? What is the basis for segregating sport based on sex?

 

2. Yes. Why should women need special protections? The same laws regarding rape, harassment and sexual crime can and should apply regardless of sex, gender, or sexual orientation. Many men are victims of these crimes as well. There is no point singling out women.

 

3. That's ridiculous and no one advocates this. Shows your thin understanding of left wing politics. Rather than take from the rich to give to the poor, this olden Robin Hood fantasy, what needs to happen is that the economic foundations of the system must be altered, so as to minimize the structural and institutional bias that generates poverty and homelessness.

 

4. They wouldn't. They describe wildly different things and have nothing to do with equality (or even equity). Equality is not about equalisation. It is about how the system is set-up and how opportunities are distributed in society and seized by individuals without benefitting those who in one way or another inherit power, money, class, race, or status.

 

Every single person who has ever justified hierarchy has described it as something "natural" and "normal". No one has proceeded to verify and prove this claim. It is yet another "truism" with no substantive basis. 

 

No. Power and hierarchy are their own justification. The answer to this particular "why", is always a firm "because I can". Everything starts and ends with opportunity, and its' limits.

 

Carl Schmitt, philosopher of the Nazis, once quipped, about hierarchy, power and Law, that: 

 

The origin of every Law, every power, and every hierarchy is a primal taking. An unlaw, a power made, a hierarchy constructed on no basis than its own self-justification.

 

Hierarchy is always self justified. Its' origin is not "nature" (which is something undefined and arbitrary!) but a primitive act of violence that established an order of things and people. Those who benefit from it are those who are lucky enough to inherit the outcomes of this originary violence.