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potato_hamster said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Here is the issue with whataboutism and the last reply to you about this, when you want to talk about something other than the subject at hand because you would like the conversation to derail from this issue rather than attempt to defend what is going on.

http://bfy.tw/JEmW

There's 11 million results for that, the first page alone features people saying they're avoiding buying the game or that it's a shit practice, so those practices were bad when they were utilized by other companies, they are also bad here.

Just because someone has stabbed a person before doesn't mean it's fine to go out with a knife and turn people into human knife racks, please don't use this method of arguing a point.

thanks for the asinine LMGTFY link. I AM talking about the subject at hand. How on earth is pointing out that games publishers have been doing this exact thing for years and was never met with any resistance have nothing to with the subject at hand? Is the thread supposed to be filled with everyone acting like they're now not going to buy this game over Activision's decision when they have almost definitely bought games in the past that did the exact same thing? Why is it such a problem to point how how willy it is that people are just complaining about this established, common industry practice now?

And that's a false analogy. Essentially what I'm arguing is that there are dozens and dozen of people that have been stabbed to death over the years and no one gave two shits save for a handful of people, but in the last couple months, two more people got stabbed to death the exact same way, are acting like no one has been stabbed before in the history of mankind. Activision has every right to be confused why suddenly, after all of these years of the game industry doing this and not even getting so much as a whimper out of the consumer base that suddenly now everyone is acting like Activision ran over their dog.

Sure the practice is bad, but that ship has lonnnnnnng sailed. If this was something the games community was going to take a stand on, they picked a completely and utterly random time to do it. To be perfectly clear - I don't think it's great or even fine that publishers do this. I never have. But after years of seeing it, and seeing millions of people buy games that feature it, I no longer think this is worthy of any bit of outrage. The mountain has been eroded into a molehill by mass consumer acceptance.

Sorry, phisical collector here.. And as far as I remember besides asinine day 1 patches (but you can play without it) the only game that had any part needed to download was a digital bonus for Twisted Metal and the like. Everything else was totally in the disk to plug and play as long as I didn't bother with any possible glitch or bug.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."