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Replicant on 05 August 2018
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Wyrdness said:
Replicant said:

VGC numbers:
Tekken 7: 1.78 mill
ARMS: 1.72 mill

Official numbers:
Tekken 7: 2.8 mill (4+ months ago)
ARMS: 2.01 mill

Why in the world do you insist on comparing Tekken 7's VGC number to ARMS' official number?

Please tell me. You keep acting like there's something I'm missing.

I'm saying that:
1. ARMS' retail sales could very well be above SFV's retail sales (SFV retail+digital is most likely higher than ARMS retail+digital though due to Steam and PS Store).
2. Tekken 7's retail sales could very well be above ARMS' retail sales (VGC has Tekken 7 retail above ARMS and 4 months ago Tekken 7 had sold 2.8 mill in total).
3. Therefore your claim that "ARMS has outsold Tekken 7 retail sales so it's safe to say it exceeded expectations by miles" is probably false.

Are you deliberately playing coy? VGC have retail numbers look at the original post you replied to and read your own posts you know it's about the retail sales compared to Arms' total you even talk about it in point 2 yet ask why compare them this flat out proves you have no point here as in your own post you highlighted you know why.

2. You need to prove that VGC is off with their data saying it could be above isn't backing your argument so therefore I'm not wrong until you do so so what I've said isn't false until you yourself provide something concrete, across Steam/PS4/X1 the digital sale can very well be what VGC indicates you need to prove that they're off otherwise what I've said is not false.

Omfg
Not once did it occur to me that we're comparing only the retail sales of SFV and Tekken 7 with the combined retail AND digital sales of ARMS. Sorry. I haven't slept for 2 days. I'm a zombie.

I guess, part of the reason why it didn't occur to me is because I fail to see why ARMS necessarily "exceeded expectations by miles" just because its combined retail and digital sales might have outsold two underperforming fighting games if we're limiting them to retail sales only. By ignoring digital sales, we're completely writing off PC sales as well as a chunk of sales through PS and XB Store.
It doesn't matter though. Nintendo's future actions surrounding the IP will tell us a lot about their feelings on its success and whether ARMS really did "exceed expectations by miles" as you claim.

As said, no hard feelings. Have a nice week