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John2290 said:
CladInShadows said:
I think the game is now fantastic. Been playing this pretty much exclusively since it came out. I'm always sitting at work getting that hankering to play. The sheer amount of content is a huge improvement, and mutliplayer is a game changer. I don't ever play online with strangers, but my brother and I just have voice chat set up and we explore independently as well as together, and often do freighter quests together in between working on the various quest lines. The PC mouse and keyboard interface needs some work, though I can also use a controller on PC. And there's the odd bug, but nothing game breaking, and not a single crash yet.

And some of the planets look fucking amazing.

PS: Star Citizen is not a scam. People need to really look up the definition for that word.

Nah,never said It's a scam but they are taking the piss now and have falling into a way of profiting without releasing the game. The game will never release in the traditional sense and they will continue this whale hunting business after launch and among those whales who are well fed and can pay the hundreds to thousands in funding tiers there are many more smaller fish getting caught in the scheme and can't afford it. The game should be in a cohesive alpha already and not a series of vertical slices, it'll be another two years at least before they drop a beta if they ever even get there. It may not be a scam or started with that intent but it's very nearly bordering on it. This will always be early access and the money they've gotten has being horribly mismanaged. Many games have taken this same approach with a LOT less funding and have released finished products amazingly polished (e.g Project CARS) in a third the time since crowd funding was announced and in that example have pushed out a sequel. Insanely high aspirations or not its unacceptable but as I said,its on the funders for not pulling out even now and continuing to double down on fugasi. Squadron 46 will probably release as a finished product but anyone thinking the promise of a finished game can be met without charging full price even to funders and a great deal more funding between now and then. The point was anyway that NMS isn't in the same category as early access or crowd funded games for obvious reasons as they released a finished game,do those ethical worries should factor into any arguments. Perhaps, over hype and the issue with pushing to keep ontop of the hype should be the topic of discussion.

Yeah, I can't agree with you there.  Fact is, anyone who's paid into the crowd funding for Star Citizen has gotten dozens and dozens of playable builds.  The game is constantly progressing.  Also, as non-game-developers, we really have no reasonable leg to stand on when it comes to determining where they should or should not be in their development cycle, nor are we in any kind of position to determine how their funds have been managed.  Random internet posters all seem to be experts on how companies should or should not develop their games, but most times it's a bunch of hot air fueled by a lot of ignorance. Maybe if we weren't getting a constant stream of updates and playable builds, I'd feel differently.  But we are.  I guess I lump the whole "Star Citizen is a scam" thing into the same category as the "One Man's Lie" folks.

Anyways, I don't want to hijack this thread any more with SC talk.  NMS Next is awesome!

Last edited by CladInShadows - on 03 August 2018