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SpokenTruth said:
method114 said:
Cheaper for who? Everyone as a whole? Sure. Is it cheaper than it was when I was in my 20's lifting and eating healthy 5 days a week and had absolutely no need or want for health insurance. I've used my health insurance once in the past 14 years it's unnecessary and I have no need for it. If I'm going to be forced to have it then at the very least we need to make exceptions for people who want to eat as much as they want and have absolutely no care in the world for their own health. I refuse to be part of a system where I'm having to pay to take care of obese people with no self control or smokers. Obesity a lone already puts a heavy burden on are healthcare system and it's not getting better.

You're a car accident away from looking at this from a whole different perspective.  Healthcare isn't just about taking care of yourself.  What if you get cancer?  Hell, a snake bite ($153,000).  Healthy people are not immune to accidents, diseases, and other medical conditions.

Your right but now look at the perspective your taking. Your essentially saying that regardless of what I think or want I should be forced to pay into healthcare because something could happen to me. Instead of letting me be an adult and decide when I need health insurance and when I don't. So how far do we take this? We've already decided that people aren't smart enough to save for retirement so we created SS and that's being ruined already.

So do we stop people from smoking cigs? Do we stop people from over eating? How far and how intrusive do we allow the government to be in order to protect us from ourselves and how well do you trust them to do that responsibly with your money? The same people who constantly seem to need to increase the defense budget nonstop but can't be bothered to reduce it so they can help there fellow citizens. The same people who said they would help us save for our retirement and now it's only a matter of time until there's not enough left.