Why are manga and anime more diverse than American animation and comics?

[DonFerrari]

outlawauron said:

Agente42 said:

1) One Piece (Pirates) - Fighting but not really super heroes - battle shonen

2) Dragon Ball - Super heroes - battle shonen

3) Naruto (Ninjas) - Fighting and some super heroing - battle shonen

4) Detective Conan - Not fighting nor super hero - Comedy Shonen

5) Golgo 13 - No super hero - action Shonen

6) Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kōen-mae Hashutsujo - "Kochikame" - comedy shonen

7) Oishinbo - comedy seinen.

8) Slam Dunk (basketball) - shonen sports, battle shonen in sports, basicaly

9) Bleach (Reapers) - Fighting and some super heroing - battle Shonen

10) Astro Boy - Can be said to be super heroing - Action

 

The majority belong to shonen battle or comedy, great diversity. oh not :)

The primary audience of Slam Dunk is women.

and don't ignore the other half of his post.

Hey, I'm a man and love SD, know other men that like it (it even increase basketball practice in Japan several fold)... but yes, perhaps there are a lot of women fan...

But to call SD battle shonen is bizarre.

AngryLittleAlchemist said:

TranceformerFX said:

Mainstream Japanese anime is diverse? No offense, but you're talking out of your ass. Anime isn't "diverse", nor has it evolved since it entered pop culture in the late 80's/early 90's. Infact, the "anime" business has been in decline for years now...

 

https://kotaku.com/evangelion-creator-predicts-the-death-of-anime-1706738732

 

http://www.otakuusamagazine.com/miyazaki-blames-otaku-animators-for-anime-decline/

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124894486860193163

 

https://kotaku.com/5966163/japanese-anime-fans-are-growing-tired-of-these-tropes

 

I don't know about Manga - but the animation industry has a cloud of doom lingering over it's head, and Japan only has itself to blame. When you cater to one audience (Japanese viewers) and capitalize on tropey cliche'd bullshit material year after year - oversaturation and disinterest is bound to happen. Which it clearly is.

 

Diverse? Don't make me laugh - Japan has largely been making the same shit since anime caught fire in the early 90's.

Lmao really? We're using the two biggest disgruntled disillusioned industry names to make claims? Come on now. And you said other people were cherry picking! 

That being said, diversity in popular anime is definitely a problem. However, the most hilarious thing of all is that despite the fact it's an issue - it's still more diverse than the American cartoon industry, where what survives is exclusive to either children's cartoons(which have become very homogeneous), or campy adult comedies. In other words, you slamming someone for calling anime or manga more diverse doesn't actually work, because your rebuttal isn't in the context of a comparison, it's just based on the overal vacuum of the Japanese industry. 

Also @Agente42 Shonen is a demographic, not a genre. It seems like the only time people use the term shonen in discussions of diversity is to argue that anime or manga aren't diverse because a majority of them are shonen. This doesn't make sense, because shonen is not a genre. There are TV anime that I honestly would have no idea were shonen (or even seinen) had I not looked it up. 

To argue that anime or manga isn't diverse by using the term "shonen" is intellectually dishonest. It's like if you tried to argue that movies are largely the same shit by showing ratings instead of the actual content of the movies. 

Don't you know there are like only 4 movies genre? All Family, Teenagers, Grow ups, Mature Woman