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o_O.Q said:
collint0101 said:

There's more to left and right politics than just more or less levels of government. By that logic conservative opposition to things like gay marriage and racial equality are left wing ideologies because they used government and law to achieve those ideas 

"There's more to left and right politics than just more or less levels of government."

which doesn't matter when we are looking at more or less government specifically

one thing we must be able to agree on is that fundamentally the left wants more government and the right wants less


with regards to gay marriage that's a very convoluted issue... mainstream democrats like hillary clinton were actually opposed to it up until very recently

https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/04/16/hillary-clintons-changing-views-on-gay-marriage/

its not a clear issue of left versus right as you appear to presume

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/high-democratic-enthusiasm-gay-rights-wasnt-always

 

"racial equality"

i already conceded that this is generally a right wing issue in terms of racism

No we can not agree on that because saying the right wants less government and the right wants more more of it is a massive oversimplification. By your logic the democrats aren't a left wing party and the republicans aren't a right wing party because they both use the expansion and shrinking of government albeit in different ways