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Jigsawx1 on 28 July 2018
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Shiken said:
Jigsawx1 said:

I dont think that achievments tell anything about a gamer. You can be a absolutly hardcore gamer without any archievments, i found it a nice when microsoft released it for their x360 in 2005, but i never played a game to get achievments.In my opinion you are a hardcore gamer if you try to play a game perfect and not to collect all achievments.
Example: if you played BF1 since release 1k+ hours you are a hardcore gamer, but if you dont play the story you dont will get 50% of the achievments and if you played it 1k+ hours since release you dont will play many other games and dont will collect alot of achievments, in your opinion theese people are casual but they not!

There are exceptions to the rule of course.  Call of Duty where many people do not play single player is a good example.  When it comes to games like that though, they usually have a reputation that goes with it.  If that is all they play, then they fall under Masters of Their Trade.

 

Most games however have trophies and achievements that do pretty well at tracking how you play the game.  Like what side content do you complete, did you complete the main story, do you play stealth or guns blazing, there is pretty much something for everything.

 

Also one thing to keep in mind is that I am not talking about judging off of one or two games.  The average of several games and the content they have completed does a very good job telling how someone would play.  So if they play ten games for example, but because they skipped the story in CoD, the data gathered from the other nine games does not become invalid.

 

Another reason you have to look at several games is because what if they did not like a game and quit early?  You need to look at their overall habits between several games to get an accurate picture.  So the argument of looking at one or two games falls flat, as that is not what this topic is about.

i think achievments only tell about gamer who cares about them, and in my opinion the real hardcore gamer play online/ pvp/ in a team but also solo and try to improve their skills.  (i never saw a achievment for this) then you dont have the time to play other games and complete some achievment. Achievments or trophies are  like a drug, i saw people who had a lot of fun with a game through the moment they got their last achievments then in the next moment the game was no longer fun for them :(. what was the next step? right you have to buy a dlc or a new game thats the reason why achievments and trophies are existing. and then they could ttry to get more achievments and so on.  if you think i have a problem with this kind of stuff you are right. Normally people should play because of their story or the gameplay that makes fun to them not to get this weird achievments or trophies.