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SpokenTruth said:
massimus said:


That's the law, he didn't do anything criminal. Congress needs to change the law lol. 1) Other Presidents were in the wrong by nullifying law and opening our borders. We the people don't get to pick and choose which laws we obey, what kind of shit is that? "Zero Tolerance" was the law as written. 2) People shouldn't be flooding our border in the first place. How you turn off the faucet?  How do you fix what has been ruined without having zero tolerance? Let them stay with their kids outside our wall. I don't care about how we look, I guess that's why we can't see eye to eye. The presentation really is the least important part to me. I just want the shit fixed. 3) Well he is making mexico pay now with the tariffs lol. The wall has been started but  it hasn't been built and that's congress' fault. They send the spending bills. The house has the power of the purse. 

1). Please show which presidents nullified our laws and opened our borders.  In fact, Obama doubled our border patrol agents )see graphs below_.  He also had more illegal immigrants removed than any president in decades (see graphs below)

 

2). Illegal immigration has been going down steadily since the late 90's.  In fact, It reached a 50 year peak low under Obama. Here are some charts you might find interesting



3). You don't understand how tariffs work.  If it costs a Mexican company 10% tariff, they will raise prices to offset.  Meaning importers raise prices to consumers to offset.  Meaning you pay 10% more for products.  YOU paid for that wall.

 

!. Bush and Obama. It doesn't matter how many agents you have when you tell them to stand down. The billions he requested to pamper incoming immigrants far outnumbered his border patrol budget. Now taking away the pamper is inhumane lol. The returns went down because they stayed here or became DACA kids. You love the numbers but you never have any context. Illegally entries went down because they walked through the front door. The apprehensions went down because they stopped apprehending them. That's why sanctuary cities were born. I don't know why you think I'm so ignorant but this shit doesn't work on me, I know better. I can see what's going on lol.

 

2. Yes I know people overstaying their visa from all over is another immigration problem but that's one much easier to fix. I agree, it should be addressed.

3. I know exactly what tariffs are, that's why I'm against them. I'm free trade and that doesn't change because of Trump. I made a joke that's why lol was at the end of it. I have no problem funding our own wall and I would like to see it replace many things in the next budget bill.