Barozi said:
DonFerrari said:
Brazilian teams have won a lot of international championship even when fragmented.
A lot easier to have a single or two very strong teams than have 10-15 strong ones.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_clubes_campe%C3%B5es_mundiais_de_futebol
Also when you have a very very strong team like Real Madrid playing the rest of the Spanish League RM is playing high level soccer but the others aren't really so saying the league is of high level isn't quite right. Would say that Euro Cup may be little ahead than Taça Libertadores on quality, but the national leagues of europe not so much. The truth is just that some of these leagues have more money to pay for more stars, but concentrated on like 2 or 3 teams on a season.
I would say NBA have higher level than Olympic championship exactly because there are more good teams than Olympic where for several years USA dominated with easyness.
Yep, I have to agree England and France are a lot more competitive than the other national leagues, that may also be the reason why they aren't as frequently Euro champions or World champions because there are a lot of leveled teams and the power doesn't concentrate to much.
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Eh we Europeans didn't really acknowledge the Club World Cup or peviously the Intercontinental Cup as something important, that's why we usually sent a B-team, so if you take pride in beating a 2nd team then good for you. I admit though that we started taking them a bit more seriously and I think it shows.
Since the 90's the UEFA won 20 out of 28 tournaments (71%), since the 00's 13 out of 18 (72%) and since the 10's 7 out of 8 (88%).
Also I don't really agree with your position on the Spanish League, I would easily put them above the Premier League as the mid tier clubs have absolutely dominated the Europa League for the past decade.
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Since the 90's São Paulo FC won 3 titles.
A league that will rarely have a team that isn't one of the big 3 win can't be said to be competitive (it can be said to be strong), I guess you mixed the info.
Also a big reason for UEFA team winning more of the recent titles have to do with these teams completely sucking dry a lot of players from all around the world and them COMMEMBOL teams got weaker.
Still I'll find it hard to believe that Arsenal, A.C. Milan and Barcelona went with intention to lose to SPFC.
Ka-pi96 said:
DonFerrari said:
Understood about the (2nd division) Brazilian is also quite competitive, but I don't follow closely to say how much.
I wasn't saying league competitiveness have impact on national team. My point was that the most competitive the league is then there will be more teams competing, so the power will be spread out, so when these teams for for EuroCup they usually will be weaker than teams from countries that have 1 or 2 strong teams.
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Oh, by EuroCup you meant the UEFA Champions League for club teams? I thought you were referring to the Euros for international teams, hence why I mentioned them. My mistake.
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Yes it was UEFA. My bad for being unclear.
