MICROSOFT results Q4 and Full Year earnings. Huge.

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Azzanation said:

Replicant said: 

Agreed. I think the Xbox community here too often "pays for the sins" of unrelated/extreme/ignorant Xbox fans in other communities.

That last sentence though. Are you honestly saying that Azzanation isn't part of those "typical people"? C'mon dude...

Mate I speak up when needed when it comes to these forums. I mainly game on PC.. like 90% of the time. But that has nothing to do with this thread. But if I see people downplaying something I will have my say. As for these forums, I wasn't on here much last generation so I have no idea what was going on. All I know is majority of the market brought a PS4 this gen so I am sure a lot of Xbox Fanboys jumped ship. I am talking the big picture not a few Users on this website.

COKTOE said:

You're a dumbass. You post ideas that are profoundly stupid. You sometimes, as with this particular one, attempt to propagate these ideas throughout multiple threads. Then, if somebody responds to you with with evidence that is in opposition to your post, and is irrefutable, you unflinchingly attempt to get blood from a stone, and end up with a post full of rock dust. How can you possibly believe that console sales mean nothing? That's literally the crux of your "argument". The XBO has almost 249 million worth of physical software sales. Which is DIRECTLY tied to the number of console sold. Does that mean nothing? Does it not contribute to profit/revenue? How about every digital game sold as a result of an XBO purchase? How many XBL subscriptions are there that are DIRECTLY tied to the XBO? How many millions? Does that also amount to nothing? And those subscriptions lead to more, ongoing profit/revenue in the form of microtransactions, ect, ect. I can't believe I'm having to type out this Duplo Block, Mud and Cookies response, essentially repeating myself with slightly more detail. I guess the next step will be breaking out the sock puppets and uploading a video to youtube.

 

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Console sales does not sell subscriptions. PS4 has 80m+ Consoles sold and only 35m Subs, and I think you know when you look up 1st party titles that they don't sell anywhere near the amount of consoles sold. HW helps, I never said it didn't however HW isn't the Be all and End all in this industry. In fact HW for most part of the generation loses money. What looks better on paper, 50m Consoles sold with 30m Subs or 100m Consoles sold and 15m subs? The subs is the life blood of the company and when it comes to software sales, well lets look at Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros on the WiiU.. Nintendo didn't need 100m consoles sold to sell there games. If companies can sell a shit ton of consoles than good for them but if they manage to sell okay but strive on the subs and software than its still okay.

EDITED- Just saw this user was Moderated, Ignore my post if need be.

PS4 sold 80M and have 35M of PSN+, much much much more PSN accounts or subs if you want to call.

The number of Subs and MAU MS reports include Silver accounts, Switch Minecraft, PC Silver and Gold, etc... so hardly a point for you to try and drive.

When I see almost half of PS4 userbase pay for the subs only to play multiplayer I'm very sad. In case you don't know PS3 had less than 10% (I believe even less than 3%) of it's userbase under PSN+ for the "free games" and discounts. Just putting MP under the paywall made it cross 50%. Also in case you don't know this have been a very stable metric, from 10M PS4 sold up to 80M the PSN+ have been 50% attach ratio, so the HW have drove the subs.