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DonFerrari said:

 

Wyrdness said:

If my point is weak how come the are many others here that have said the exact same thing to you? How come the are others who have made the exact same break down I've just made? Fact is my point is solid with not only concrete factors as well as logic behind behind it but it's been highlight by others the broken angle you're trying to argue.

Have we missed an argumentation class where they explain the phallacy of "a lot of other people is also saying the same thing so it's true"? Let me tell you that at the time Einstein showed the theory of relativity there would be about 2 Billion people in the planet that disagreed with it and at the moment only him that saw it as right, was his theory wrong because most would say it was wrong?

PS4 had major stock issues launch window it sold 1m on launch and following week it sold less than 100k and this was during the holiday season numbers are even on this site, when they had stock they would double X1 sales.

Now we changed from production to stock, much better. That have more to do with they having to attend multiple markets (they even have had made escalonated launch of europe and usa) and had to air transport their consoles for Xmas sales. Still go and track USA during the whole gen and you'll see that X1 was never very far from PS4 in USA. But now if you want to equate sales and value. Xbox retails for 199 a lot of time and PS4 for 299, still PS4 is selling 3x as much WW, so per your strong logic as you self claimed (which is another bullock, the argument stand or not by itself not by you claiming they are great) PS4 would value 299 and Xbox should value 1/3 of it's 199 so less than 69. Right?

This part about sales is why I asked you if English was your first language not once in any post did I even mention Octopath sales at any point and seeing as you seem adamant that the is no language barrier explain this then because right here you're arguing something that not only was never said but matches no context in what you're replying to to and highlights you making any old nonsense up to keep this circus act of yours going.

If you think Octopath sales was never used as argument in this thread then call it strawman not language barrier, which is quite easy to check, click the name and see place of birth.

Again no people have listed content as one reason out of many you have not at any point given a well thought out explanation to counter what anyone you've replied to has said and it is summed up by your AAA comment, people have given reasoning as to why they see value and your only response is "AAA have more value" this is not a counter in any shape or form and hilariously proves the OP and everyone on the first page correct. You've dug yourself in a hole with the nonsense you've brought here and each post you've made has further gone against you.

You miss so much that it's funny. No one have claimed that content as one out of many reason for the value for Octopath?

I more than once said that production value and budget alone doesn't determine the value of a game (but that it already determines a base line for the price it will be sold). If you read the multiple replies you'll see that is one of the aspects but the game must be seem on all aspects and as customer one should be discounting the price of the product for what it lacks, so if it's an AAA with top level graphics, IA, models, textures, etc then one aspect is covered, then you shall also see the lenghty of the game compared to at least standard, gameplay, how entretaining the game is, etc and if any of this is missing for you then you are totally fine considering the game isn't worth 60 for you.

You assume to much and argument over your own interpretation and calls that logic.

 

The only one who has used fallacious arguments has been you in all your replies to everyone here an example is your Einstein argument ironically, in case you don't understand a theory is something that is not proven even though based on some logic so people can disagree here how ever it's a concrete fact in regards to the game's reception of its overall package and when people are using concrete factors it's not a theory as it has objectivity to it.

Guess what production affects stock let that sink in, X1 only began competing in US when the price cuts came in which was early in its life before that when stock was sorted out it was being demolished and even now at the same price PS4 has more value for the majority which shoots down your whole cost determines value notion.

What about sales being used by someone else? Is that my concern or has anything to do with what I was debating? No this is straight up Red Herring on your part because you have no concrete stance in your argument so try to shift attention to another argument to save yourself.

No one you say? Funny because Alara317's post basically just contradicts this part of your post and he/she isn't the only one either like others he or she has highlighted music, writing, content etc... So we can confirm BS on your part here the rest of the last part just prove the replies on the first page right congratulations the last part is a prime example of what people were mocking. I didn't need to assume anything as your posts themselves hung your own argument as is shown by the inconsistent flip flopping, back peddles and fallacies.