Biggerboat1 said:
I'm not American, and am watching this whole drama unfold from afar (sunny Scotland), so freely admit that I'm not an expert on the whole Trump/Russia/Collusion fiasco but I definitely do take an interest and watch/read a fair amount. In general I always try to see both sides of the argument and am always looking to learn, so please feel free to counter what I'm about to write & I'll give it due consideration. I'm having trouble with your statement above "Every word of that is first paragraph is ridiculous bro." It's quite a damning appraisal and I can't see how you can possibly back it up. Let's go through the first paragraph by sentence: 1) I guess this is subjective so I'll give you that one 2) He is indeed President and he surely is privy to all info - so how can you contest that? 3) Seems consistent based on all media outlets / politicians / analysts, both left & right... how can you contest that? 4) What would you suggest his reasoning was behind his u-turn? 6) I'm not sure about this one - are parties from "all corners of the government" asking for impeachment? If it's purely the democrats pursuing this then I'd say it's a mischaracterisation. 7) I think this is undeniable, no? 8) I guess this is the same as 4) It seems to me that best case scenario, all of the points made in this paragraph are correct & worst case maybe 2 out of 8 are, as you say, "ridiculous". Would you care to give me your take? |
2. How is having the powers of a president an impeachable offense? He was trying to say he knows the dirt they have so that’s why he said what he did. For one, that’s stupid. For two, it’s not an impeachable offense.
3. Trumps answer was “I want to see the server”. The DNC never turned over their server to the FBI after the hack. My guess is to hide that they rigged the primary election against Sanders. Even with his authority as president, top clearance, he hasn’t seen any evidence. With the way they have been stonewalling congress subpoenas it means congress hasn’t seen it either. Congress has already cleared any trump campaign involvement but that wasn’t the question and I think that’s where he slipped up. Even if Russia did hack the DNC it’s still not an impeachable offense against trump. The media is worthless and shouldn’t be considered at all.
4. The reason for walking it back you mean? It was a dumb thing to say at a press conference. Trump just doesn’t care, he will say the same thing at a press conference that he will at a rally. His beef with our intelligence runs deep. I guess he feels like if he agreed with our intelligence he agrees with all of the other bullshit they are trying to pin on him as well. Like I said though, that’s domestic. Even if he had to lie he should have said our intel community is the best.
5. He has and some of it was dismissible.
6. It’s not treasonous or impeachable, that’s a ridiculous statement.
7. I will give him that one.
8. I haven’t seen this evidence but I don’t doubt Russians are hacking Americans. This is common sense and nothing new. The investigation is about Trump involvement which there is none (or it hasn’t been shown). Why would Trump be impeached for something Russia did? That’s why it’s ridiculous. He hasn’t done anything to warrant such action.
