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Xxain on 16 July 2018
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killeryoshis said:
Train wreck said:

Did you also buy Shining Resonance Refrain?  it debuted at No.27 on four platforms, has all the old school goodness of a game like Tales of Destiny 2 and it'll be gone next week.  RPGS, old and new, still have a long way to go.

I have no clue what you are trying to imply. If there was no market for the game then there will be no games. Octopath being popular just shows that these types of games can sell really well. That means more games like it. Which is a plus for me. But if a game has to sell millions in order to be successful than there are a lot of bombs.

Xxain said:

Very fucking good. Yes. Yes.

Instead of Bitching about JRPG's being turn based/action, cinematic/not cinematic, gamers who enjoy the genre should be rooting for the genre in in its whole. Mindsets like Killieryoshis, does not nothing positive for the genere.

Nah you are wrong. I was said in a later post that I just wanted Octopath to show that people want to play. People can cheer what they want and I will cheer for what I want. I will not hope that something like FF 15 to do horribly but I won't cheer if it succeeds. I am not going to root for an entire genre even just because I like it. If it goes in a direction I do not want I will be against it. If they want to make every type of game that's fine. However, if it is at expense of things I like then I will be against it. 

If you want to cheer towards an entire genre regardless of what it does than that is on you. If RPGs started to do things I don't want to do then I will play something else. 

 

routsounmanman said:
Xxain said:

Very fucking good. Yes. Yes.

Instead of Bitching about JRPG's being turn based/action, cinematic/not cinematic, gamers who enjoy the genre should be rooting for the genre in in its whole. Mindsets like Killieryoshis, does not nothing positive for the genere.

Huh? I am too a huge fan of turn-based JRPGs, strategy games like Heroes etc. Why should I be forced to enjoy and root for "adjacent" genres? I hate the shoehorning of action elements into every genre. I have terrible reflexes and wit / quick thinking so those games don't appeal to me at all.

PS: SEGA had it coming with Shining, they released an old port the same window as an exclusive, highly anticipated and marketed same-genre game. YS VIII came a little while back, too. 

Action JRPGS will be the brunt of the few JRPG's that get AAA budget. This is because elements of an ARPG are more in line with what's the norm in today's market, number 1 being worlds in which you transition between Town, exploring and battles seamlessly. Turn base/classic JRPG's do not lend themselves with well with those elements. The reason you why should root for JRPG styles that you don't necessarily like is because they are going to pay for more games like Octopath Traveller. The success of FFX or Xeno is a success for the entire genre. If FFXV had bombed there would be not Octopath Traveller (FF bombs then RPG lesser than it goes bye bye). Games like Octo are an experiment that developers would only be willing to take if they know that have funds coming in elsewhere. The fall of Action RPG is not going to propel classic JRPG's back (stupid kiddy mindset). It's going to kill the whole genre. You don't have to like ARPG's, but do know they are important for survival of the genre.