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Bofferbrauer2 said:
nemo37 said:

I think PS4 Pro upgrades contribute a significant amount to the PS4’s sales right now. The Pro model is currently sold out in all of the online stores tracked here. However, it is still available in many of the brick and mortar Best Buy and GameStop stores, so I suspect overall PS4 sales may be undertracked by the tool right now (since it only looks at online sources).

Yeah, I posted before that the Pro and One X both are getting an evergrowing part of the sales of their respective consoles.

Not sure if the Gamestop isn't tracking the sales of all their shops combined or not - at least I thought it does. If just Target and Walmart would have good and regularly update videogame sales charts like the other 3 (well, 2 of the 3 at least) do, we would have a clearer picture. However, Nowinstock has just the one at Gamestop in stock, either - apart from a scalped Arkham Knight LE for almost 500 bucks: https://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/

There it's also visible that it's not just in the US, though because most countries are only represented by Amazon there it's a bit hard to judge those. But some like Canada, UK and Mexico have other shops and those also seem to be short on stocks.

Same is also true for the XBO S it seems, as it only shows availability in the Microsoft store, and sold out in Canada, UK and Germany. The ONE X, on the other hand, seems much more available - but is also tracked at a higher variety of shops. Still, it can be bought at places the S model is shown as sold out, so probably the X is the only option next to the Switch in many cases.

duduspace1 said:

Yeah, although I think its also partly because the PS4 is starting to show its age, to be honest after the Switch became as widely accepted as it is, the PS4 had to feel the heat at some point. Some expected it to happen earlier but the PS4 defied all such expectations till now. Perhaps that is now starting to happen, although I am certain that does not completely explain what seems to be such an abrupt drop that it might indeed be termed Falling off a cliff. The future will reveal what is actually happening in form of NPD results.

Partially, yes, but nothing near as huge or abrupt as it happened here now. As explained above, it looks like there's starting to be some more or less serious stock issues

Perhaps something similar to what happened in Japan earlier is starting to happen worldwide. I did say at the time that I thought the scarcity was due to Sony having to reconsider their allocation of manufacturing resources between the Pro and legacy PS4 SKUs.

It is very possible that there is a glut of legacy PS4 SKUs but a scarcity of Pro SKUs for those making the leap to 4K which would fit a significant portion of the PS4 userbase mostly enamoured by the eyecandy of high end graphics.