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Ganoncrotch said:

Just going to go out on a limb here and suggest that it's very likely you just disagree with his stance and I feel that you have the belief forged over 32 years in what you believe, asking a user to bring you evidence to change your mind is going to be probably impossible as he wont be able to change 32 years of what you believe in with a forum post, probably one of those times to just agree to disagree.

It is not even about changing my mind, that is a Red herring, aka. A logical fallacy. - Thus rambling on about my age, changing my mind is thus ultimately irrelevant.

The thing is... He is making a claim, regardless if it is accurate or inaccurate, the burden of proof lays with him, aka. The person who makes the claim.
So no... I won't just "Agree to disagree". - If you cannot backup your claims, then your claims can be discarded, it is that simple.

On these forums if someone asks me to meet my burden of proof, you can bet I will meet that demand.

omarct said:

Prove what? This is so basic I feel stupid even having to explain it.

Prove your claims. If it is indeed "stupid" as you say, it should be relatively easy, right?

omarct said:


Do you think people are born deeply religious or are they made so through childhood "conditioning"?

You are conflating two COMPLETELY separate issues, that is a logical fallacy.
Religion has absolutely nothing to do with ones sexuality.

omarct said:


Let me give an example from my personal life.

I don't care about your person life, that is irrelevant and thus opinion and thus not empirical evidence.

omarct said:

Edit: One last thing. No matter what your genetics are, sexual orientation for humans is more mental than physical. I personally know a guy who was born without a penis. He didnt even have a hole to piss from. He had to tube linked straight to his bladder so he could pee. Long story short, the guy is straight, even without a penis he is still attracted to women. Maybe this isn't the best example but my point is that any girl no matter what her genetics can be attracted to the same sex and the same applies to guys. Humans have mostly overcome things like instinct through intelligence and the ability to release sexual tension by masturbation etc....

Again. You are conflating two separate issues, thus again... A logical fallacy.
Gender and sexuality are separate constructs and thus not comparable.

But if you cannot backup your claims with empirical evidence, then your argument can be discarded in it's entirety.



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