Spike0503 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
What I have a problem is people changing the theme of the story in order to justify accusing Joel of being selfish. When I answer the question, I answer in line with the narrative and the narrative is that Joel is a Father and made a Father's choice. To suggest he should have considered saving humanity over saving his daughter is both irrelevant and insane. If that WAS the narrative it would have been cliqued, something a young person would write because they think they've cornered the market in virtue. They think it's 'deeper' to think in those terms but it's much 'shallower' than to consider the complexities of humans and how relationships change over the course of our lives. These things take 'experience', the other takes just five minutes of listening to the contestants in a beauty pageant.
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Gosh, I find your attitude incredibly sanctimonious and annoying:
"I'm answering according to the narrative thus my opinion is better than yours".
Give me a freaking break. I can't even believe we agree that Ellie was the better choice. I don't really care about what the narrative for the game is. The OP asked a question and I answered it and gave my justification for it. Did you see any part of my original comment talking about what the narrative of the game was?, no? then why the hell are you replying to me with such nonsense?. In answering the question, I don't care about the original narrative or what you think a young person would write (weird tangent btw). I choose to save Ellie because they had 0% chance of making a vaccine considering the context of the situation. That's it.
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Look, I haven't been following this thread for a few days now and if I've taken your comment out of context, I apologise. I just get a bit sick and tired of people (not just on here) forgetting the context for Joel's actions. The whole narrative built to the question of a lie and the ambiguity of 'OK'. That was the big revelation here, not whether Joel should have 'saved humanity'.
