irstupid said:
Not exactly my point. The exact specifics are not important. My point was that they made his decision personal. The consequence being as it is, is a cliché end of the world or save one hundreds/thousands/millions/ect die situation. Seen it a million times and it was presented to the reader as a choice. Do this or that. cliché lazy writing. That is not how life works. In life you rarely see forks in the road, its only after you have made a decision can you look back and see that it was indeed a fork. You rarely know the consequences of your choices until after it's too late and the choice has long been since made. I bring up Withcer 3 again, cause it did consequences in a realistic fashion. Rarely did I know what was going to happen until afterwards. I assumed I was doing the right thing that would either save the most people, fix the situation or even being selfish at times save one. I was always surprised by how it seemed like whatever I did ended up doing something I never expected. I save some ghost and it turns out she ends up spreading the plague due to that. I go and do something for someone and come back and they are murdered due to my actions, ect. The point is, I didn't know the results. In TLOU and others, you are basically presented with the conclusions in the choice. It asks you straightup. Do you want to do this, which will cause this, or do that which will cause this. It makes me not care. I choose for metagame reasons. Or in the case of TLOU, I'm not making a choice but being pulled along the directors narrative he wants to tell me. I prefer that to fake choices sure, but the topic of this OP is stupid. 1. One would never be given a straight up choie like this 2. If you chose to save Ellie, you are delusional. Clearly you believe you are some superhero that can kill thousands of zombies and run through armored enemies and head shooting people left and right. Your living in a fake reality where you are getting kill streaks and your a god. In the real world, if you weren't already dead you would likely be hiding in a bomb shelter for the rest of your short life cause if you did step foot outside the hundreds of zombie would kill you and you can't just hide in the tall grass. So your delusional thoughts that you can somehow protect you and ellie are clouding your judgement. Most likely you would have already considered committing suicide thousands of times and probably even killing Ellie thousands of times to put her out of this miserable existence. But no, us saying save the world are the kindergarten opportunistics. Ha. I say those that say otherwise are the ones that are living a pipe dream. |
You write a hell of a lot LOL.
You're still doing it. This was never the intention of the narrative but you're saying it was in order to state it's cliqued. The ending was simply a personal story of a 'lie'. The whole narrative from start to finish was leading naturally to that conclusion, which is why it had so much impact. You're ignoring 99% of the narrative to draw a conclusion only available at the very end of the game. It's NOT part of the story arc. It's a road to redemption story and Joel gets to redeem himself at the end by giving him a second chance to save his daughter, which he does.
The only reason 'saving humanity' has entered the conversation is because people (like yourself) have stepped outside of the narrative. Those who supported the narrative made the mistake of arguing 'well, we can't be sure they would find a cure anyway' and those who won't accept the narrative argue 'Joel should have saved humanity'. Neither of those two positions are of any relevance whatsoever.
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