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John2290 said:

There is a vast difference between Xbox and PS4 blth in the games and the qaulity of life we were talking about in the first place.

Also,multiplats are one thing but you're ignoring the Sony first party line up. There is nothing vanilla on PC that can match it... show me a released, vanilla game that looks better than Detroit or GoW, not just graphically by pixel but in all aspects visually. Maybe you'll find a handful but you won't find anything that gets the while package together like these games, possibly until Cyberpunk drops. Add VA, audio design,art direction etc on top if that and they slam everything else available on any platform.

Let me ask you. Have you played the last three important PS4 exclusives in this department? Horizon, GoW and detroit?

Horizon yes. God of War and Detroit, no. They don't interest me.
Horizon looks pretty, but do you actually understand how they achieved what they did though? The hardware isn't doing anything "special" or "magical" to achieve it's visual output, it's art is absolutely amazing, but what about the actual graphics fidelity, aka. The rendering pipeline itself? You aren't conflating art and graphics fidelity are you?

Battlefront 2 being pushed on PC is indeed superior to those on the visual fidelity front, Frosbite is indeed amazing on PC. - I think the point you are missing though is that I do actually own consoles... And can thus readily compare them to my PC in real time.

StarCitizen is pushing a degree of simulation that typically hasn't been seen in a video game and on the fidelity front is also rather impressive being on a custom fork of Amazon-altered CryEngine.

The PC is a step up over whatever the consoles are trying to push out, and so they should. - You can only get so much out of a console device that has a low-end CPU, low-end/mid-range GPU and only 8GB of Ram. (Not all of which is actually used for games.)
That's not to say that consoles have ugly games, they just don't have the heavy effects pipeline that the PC typically employs, especially with multi-plats.

I highly suggest you pay attention to CGI's threads which showcase games on the PC, he's even been accused of using bullshots before.



--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--