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John2290 said:

My laptop is beefier than my last PC build which is on parity with ps4 and bought in 2012.

It's still a laptop.
You don't buy a laptop expecting any kind of longevity with gaming.
Just like you don't buy a Mac expecting to play the latest games.

The reason why Laptops are typically not suited for gaming is... Well. Power.
They have a limited TDP budget, which means on the CPU side there are cutbacks to frequency and/or core counts.
Most laptop manufacturers usually only outfit notbooks with only a single SODIMM module.
And then on the GPU side... Is where the largest cutbacks are to be had, usually they are a step down from the desktop equivalents and usually are fitted with significantly worse (And often less) DRAM, if you get any at all.

And whilst it is all well and good to state that it is beefier than a Playstation 4... Keep in mind it is not a Playstation 4.

John2290 said:

Last time I pit money into an actual PC 2010ish, Can it run Crysis was still a thing and it could run crysis very well but it can't run jack shit now.

My 3930K rig is circa 2011~. Still going strong as a spare machine.
Guess what? It's still faster than the Xbox One X or Playstation 4 Pro. - And the games that it is still running is evidence of that.

John2290 said:

And again. We are talking different systems here,you are talking Xbox. I'm talking ps4.

Doesn't matter. They are both consoles.

John2290 said:

One of my mates in particular who has put 4 thousand euro into his PC and I'm still taking the piss out of him post Horizon and now with GOW and Detroit.

Your mate isn't a representation of the entire PC gaming community.


John2290 said:

They are beyond anything vanilla on his PC and it takes some heavy modding to get there and STILL the visuals aren't as refined or polished because there is always that jancky look around the edges that remains that you just can't get rid of if the developer isn't as talented as what is coming out pf sony.

The majority of Playstation 4 games are on PC.
They pretty much always look and run better on PC.

The PC also has a ton of talented developers. The PC also has more developers.

John2290 said:

He has 4k tv and a pro and we have been in awe since UC4, we matched both horizon and GOW in HDR 4k against each other to his picks from steam and the difference was massive even in 1080p and performance mode, I can't imagine how much detroit bashes everything else in terms of facial animations.

4k? PC has 5k and 8k.
Or hows about something like 11,520x2160? It is all well and good that you have 4k, but the PC had 4k almost 15 years ago.
1080P was something 20 years ago on PC, while console gamers were still fumbling with 480P.


John2290 said:

  Its hard to gauge these things exactly going from room to rooom with different games but its appparent as all hell when seen in person, way better gauge than YT video comparisons and the two games mentioned on here that are supposed to top it, star citizen and Battlefield 2 I haven't seen but it took modded games specifically GTA5 modded to high hell to get close to Horizon and my opinion is that nothing has gotten close to GOW even modded.

I run consoles and PC. I can assure you... I haven't seen anything that can touch a high-end PC game like Battlefront 2 that has been supersampled.
That Photogrammatry is really something.

StarCitizen is a tech showcase as well, the level of simulation it has is almost next-gen in a multitude of areas.

John2290 said:

A console you can buy for 350 euro now shouldn't put ultra settings to shame.

Well. You did state prior that nothing on PC can touch God of War (I beg to differ). And now you state that a $350 console shouldn't put ultra settings to shame?
You are contradicting yourself.

John2290 said:

As for buying libraries I'm also WELL over that as it leads to a time issue. I'd advice you to rethink doing so also. I only buy as much time as I have to play and add on a few here and there that maybe I don't but the 3 thousand or so I've spent this gen I've typically played more than 75% that wasn't bought on sale or a PSN freebie.

It's my money. I've earned it.
Gaming and collecting games is my hobby to level myself out and unwind. - If anything, it allows me to do my jobs more effectively.
Do I play all the games I own? Shit no. I still have a few PS2 games in their plastic wrapping.

John2290 said:

There is much merit to buying into one console more than there is buying all of them. Last gen I barely played 20% of games across the systems and I wouldn't be surprised if it was under 10 percent with some of the wii games added in or the steam flash sales. I certainly rarley finished a game or felt satisfied in my purchase as i do now.

There is much merit to buying a console from each manufacturer as well.

 

John2290 said:

But to each there own. It's your money. Mine is mine. At least we're having fun.

Indeed.



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