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Azzanation said:

Example - Those 5m X1X owners can still play next gen games however those games will be downscaled much like how PC games have settings that get lowered to play on older hardware.

The base Xbox one will still likely be able to play next-gen games, but in a significantly reduced manner.
It happened with the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3.

And it happened in the console generation prior to that.


Azzanation said:

Also devs wont need to accommodate for the X if its compatible with next gen meaning basically they just release next gen games and they quickly port it over to X with very little effort (eg DX12). Those 5m sales add onto the next gen sales of the X2 which will add more gamers availble to play the games in the ecosystem.

Jaguar is missing allot of newer features like... AVX2, FMA3, BMI2, SHA.
On the GPU front... The Xbox One X is missing features like Primitive Shaders, Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer, Rapid Packed Math and various Direct X 12.1 features like Conservative Rasterization Tier 1 and Rasterizer Ordered Views.

It's not just a simple case of "down porting". - There is more to it when the game is built for more advanced technology from the outset.

From the wording Microsoft has put forth thus far... The Xbox One X is very much a current generation console, not a next generation console, the fact it is has an antiquated array of Jaguar cores is a testament to that very fact, let alone only mid-range GPU performance and only 12GB of total Ram.

Azzanation said:

If you still dont understand, in other words the X sales will count as X2 sales.

No evidence for that at this stage I am afraid.

Azzanation said:

Preformance isnt the issue with the X,

Performance is very much an issue, those Jaguar cores are limiting.
Having only 12GB of Ram operating at only 326GB/s of bandwidth is not next-gen. (Let alone the issue that the crossbar brings into due to the mis-match of ROPS to Memory channels.)

Azzanation said:

it will be all about the compatibility, X2 will most likely use UWP, DX12 and X86 which will mean X1 and X2 can talk the same language.

 Not exactly.
Just because hardware leverages the same ISA, doesn't mean compatibility is a guarantee.

UltimateGamer1982 said:

My only concern is Microsoft has been pricing their consoles on the expensive end lately. They launched the One at $500 in 2013 and again with the X at $500 last year. If they keep this up for next gen, Sony will again price them out of competition by possibly undercutting them by $100 or more.

It doesn’t matter what they have under the hood, ppl will naturally go for the cheaper product.

Here’s hoping Microsoft prices the scarlet at a reasonable price point this time.

Well. The Xbox One X was billed as a premium console, it's higher price was justified.

Last edited by Pemalite - on 12 June 2018


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