Confirmed: Next Gen Xbox Codenamed Scarlet.

[DonFerrari]

Azzanation said:

Manlytears said: 

I get your point and logic. If the game is 4k/60 on next gen why not port it 1080p/30 on last gen? The awser is simple,  the last gen sales are weak and the diference in visual and performance is just too big! Just look at the sales of non-crossgen games like titanfall, rise of tomb raider and Shadow of mordor, the last gen ports sold much less than the next gen version!   http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=72892   http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=84683     http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=77128

 no good sales = no last gen ports.

It's the same logic of "why not make a nintendo switch port"

Edit:

One more thing, the "it still works, just inferior version" narrative doesn't sit well whit x1x avarenge user. I mean, most x1x users are gamers that want the best performance, they are people that want and can pay for premium! Why would they keep scorpion when they can play on nextgen xbox? Also, please don't talk about making scorpion an "entry model whit low price", things don't work like this. Nextgen will have much better tech, especially on cpu front, and x1x will not be able to match cost X benefice of nextgen. That said, price advantage will be meaningless, most people will just buy the new consoles.

That's where I see the next Xbox being marketed very differently compared to Sony's PS5. If MS go the PC no Gen route than its very possible to make the next Xbox very powerful but still being able to keep the other X1s as cheap alternatives. Yes they will struggle without a doubt but price wise not everyone will want to upgrade straight away. Tomb Raider 2013 and Forza Horizon 2 came out on the 360 so I see a similar method being applied to there next system without actually having to heavily code the games to run on the platforms. Its all just a possibility not a reality. PC do it, I cant see why consoles cant. 

HoloDust said:

I really can't say I've followed much of your convo, but:

6970 is 2.7 TFLOPS GPU...that performs slightly to 20% (depending on the game) below R7 265 (1.84 TFLOPS GPU). R7 265 is, more or less, performance level of PS4's GPU.

You are right, I misread the specs on that card. either way it was a very weak card with not enough Ram to keep up with Doom. I still managed to play it at 1080p and it held a solid 30 frames most of the time but when the effects started to jump in, my card started to show its age and I was playing it on Low/Medium settings. There were times I walked in a room and the card didn't even draw up the walls and it had this bright pink flat shaded look, it wasn't a good look for a game like Doom haha. 

Sorry but no... a console with the specs of X1X could possibly be an entry level for cheap price next gen, but the solution MS gone for X1X won't ever be a cheap console as much as PS3 couldn't ever really go 99 USD as did PS1 and PS2. It can't be made cheap enough in 2 years to be a 199 console versus PS5 and Nextbox.