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Aura7541 said: 
 See previous thread....

Argument #1: Prior generation when you bought a PS1/PS2/PS3 and a mid-gen new consoles version came out it was only slimmer and almost no power upgrade over the original. PS4 Pro owners are made up of PS4 upgrade and new to the consoles. All of these people are less likely to buy a PS5 right away. Therefore, you've never had PS1.5/PS2.5/PS3.5 like we do now with the PS4 Pro and XB1X. We have never seen the impact this will have on next gen sales.  

Argument #2: Sony ecosystem, your right with Sony is growing their ecosystem. But, unlike PS3 to PS4 jump were you needed a PS4 to play next gen PS4 game. You will still be able to play the new next gen games on older consoles. These game are going to be the best looking on the PS4 Pro.  Will there be consoles PS5 exclusives that can't be played on PS4 PRo in the first two-three years that not tied to some new controller???? If you wanted to play the new game you had to buy a PS4, they quickly drop PS3 support for next gen games that will not be the case for next gen unless PS5 release in 2021 or 2022. Assuming they release PS5 Holiday 2019 or spring 2020 the PS4 will still be on the market, you will have the choice between getting a PS4 for dirt cheap, Discounted PS4 Pro or upgrade the 4k graphic and performance with PS5. That won't be a 7 year jump in technology. Also, your digital library is going to convert to the PS5, there even less pressure to make the jump. All of these great consumer friendly options will result in less sales of PS5 compared to PS4. 

Argument #3: Software, Microsoft could release a cheaper and slightly more powerful XB2 on the same day as PS5 and it wouldn't matter unless they have the software to backup their new console. Phil Spencer focus is on powerful hardware and software to back it up, this plan will take time and Xb2 won't be ready till 2020 or 2021. If sony release PS5 in 2019 they will probably have a one year lead on Microsoft next gen console. 

Aura7541 said: 
 See previous thread....

Your pivot to mobile trends is yet another red herring. The discussion is largely about the PS5. The bolded is yet another strawman fallacy. I said that if Sony gets a year head start with the PS5, then Sony may end up eating a chunk of the Xbox userbase before Microsoft releases the XB2. However, I clearly said that I expect the PS5 and XB2 to release simultaneously. Considering how messy your comment is overall, you're less interested in addressing my counterarguments and more concerned about responding for the sake of responding. I mean, for goodness sakes, there is a 3 day gap between your response before the one I'm quoting and the comment I made 4 days ago, and that post was also logically flawed in spite of the amount of time you had to think it over.


The casual market have gone from playing game on consoles to playing game on Mobile. If the trends continue Sony will lose some market to Mobile/tablet gaming rather then lose it to Xb2. Consoles sales overall will take a hit to Mobile/Tablets.