"Incel" terrorism

[o_O.Q]

MrWayne said:

o_O.Q said:

"but there are many cases where it's not important what's between you legs or how your parents raised you."

but wouldn't that invalidate the whole proposal?

if this subsection which is about the common experiences of men and women is primary then why is there a need for a switch between either group?

surely the issue at hand is those experiences which are not common across the groups?

"Also normally one can not know how many X and Y chromosomes an unknown person has, one can only assume on the basis of their appearance, so transgender women are strongly affected by the social norms for women."

that is from my first post, I meant the everyday life situations where transgender women and biological women behave the same. .

o_O.Q said:

my response to you was not about feminism btw,

it was about the dismissal of biology under some conditions and its use under other conditions to erase the identity of trans people...

my point is that you cannot logically do both

why?

I think we should treat transgender people how they want to be treated but there are  situations where we have to make a exception.

I think I explained pretty well where and why I would make those exceptions.

How do you think we should treat transgender people?

"I think we should treat transgender people how they want to be treated but there are  situations where we have to make a exception."

you think they should be treated how they want to be treated until you don't... that's my point

 

"How do you think we should treat transgender people?"

with respect, but that does not mean that the notion that men can simply become a women or vice versa through "identity" completely disregarding the biological basis from which we derive genders is the way to go

its an obvious mistake to do so... as jaicee has mentioned in this thread, one obvious consequence is that in doing so we run the risk of eliminating male and female as categories

and then why should mike tyson not be able to go head to head with rhonda rousey if the concept of man and woman don't mean anything?

why should we bother to advocate for women's issues when women don't exist?

.... i mean i don't really get how people cannot see what is at stake here