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MrWayne said:
o_O.Q said:

i don't get this stance...

 

"If I talk to a transgender woman, aka a biological man who identifies himself as a woman and tries to be seen as a woman, I would definitely address her as a woman."

ok fair enough you accept their identity here

"It's debatable if transgender women should be allowed to participate in women's sports leagues"

but deny their identity here

why is it ok to throw out the biological basis for sex in one instance but not another?

because these are very different situations.

If the instance is heavily tied to the physiology of the women body or to being born and raised as a women, women and transgender women have a different view and experiences but there are many cases where it's not important what's between you legs or how your parents raised you.

So I would say feminism isn't a movement for transgender women but they definitely benefit from it, so it's pretty logical for them to be feminists..

btw Feminism is a movement for women but you don't have to be a woman to be a feminist.

"but there are many cases where it's not important what's between you legs or how your parents raised you."

but wouldn't that invalidate the whole proposal?

if this subsection which is about the common experiences of men and women is primary then why is there a need for a switch between either group?

surely the issue at hand is those experiences which are not common across the groups?

isn't the argument from trans people that their experience of life differs so much to their current gender that they must make the switch to feel whole?

 

"So I would say feminism isn't a movement for transgender women but they definitely benefit from it"

well if we throw away what it means to be a woman then i suppose they will initially...

 

my response to you was not about feminism btw, it was about the dismissal of biology under some conditions and its use under other conditions to erase the identity of trans people... my point is that you cannot logically do both