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Jaicee said:
VGPolyglot said:

When you say trans-identifying men, are you referring to people born as male who transitioned to female, or vice versa?

I am referring to people who were born male and, as far as I'm concerned, still are male. I am very much of the persuasion that it is not actually possible to "become a woman" or for a woman to "become a man".

Yes, I know there are surgeries that are often referred to as "sex change operations", but that popular term is factually incorrect. All those operations actually do is mutilate one's body in such a way as to artificially imitate the outward appearance of the other sex. They do not change one's internal DNA structure. Anyone who is born male will always DNA test as male, will never be able to reproduce, etc. Enjoyed or not, one's sex is a caste. It cannot be changed.

I feel that the steadily increasing social pressure on gender-nonconforming people to identify as trans is basically intended to wipe out public perceptions that men can be something other than masculine (which is really just our culture's sexist way of saying controlling, authoratative) and that women can be something other than feminine (which is our culture's sexist way of saying submissive, servile). There's a conservative premise there, I would observe, and it parallels increasing belief among younger Americans that traditional social roles -- male breadwinners and female homemakers, that sort of thing -- are superior and more natural; perhaps the product of three decades now of non-traditionally extreme gendering of the child-rearing process (example of what I mean by that) in reaction to the feminist wave of the 1970s.

The overlap between increasing belief in gender roles among younger people and their increasing reliance on gender-based identification is not a coincidence in my opinion. The latter thing is, at least in part, an outgrowth and expression of the former.

If girls cannot play with toy trucks without "becoming boys" in the process in our collective mindset, then is our collective imagination actually expanding...or contracting?

So, you're a TERF? I admit I was hoping for that not to be the case. While yes, societal expectations do make people feel uncomfortable with their preferences, I do believe that gender dysphoria is a thing. Eliminating transsexual women from feminism is ignoring some of the most vulnerable women, how are they going to feel accepted if even those that promote equality of women don't want them?