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LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

Sure, but you said they benefit the gamers, please explain.

Well, no, he didn’t. To be accurate he said the sales numbers give gamers no benefit. Which might imply the in game stats MS provided does benefit gamers, if you want to read it that way, or it could mean he thinks they provide more of a benefit than sales numbers. At which point it’s just your opinion versus his. Idk about benefits, but as someone who doesn’t own stock in the developer, they’re certainly more interesting imho than sales.

Also, this idea that you must care about sales to be posting here is complete nonsense. For starters, VGC numbers haven’t been taken seriously in forever. I joined before this current gen started and people were already disregarding VGC. Also, the forum has a sales discussion section. It’s a completely different section than the gaming forums. You’d have a point if this thread were in the sales discussion or was an actual sales thread, but otherwise maybe you shouldn’t be telling people what they should care about because they post here. It’s even weirder when you consider this is a thread about a Microsoft published title you’ll likely never play. 

As someone who has 30 hours in the game thus far, yeah, it IS interesting to read about how many zombies have been killed, and other stats. It’s just PR fluff. Go have a Coke and a smile and try not to take it so seriously :)

First paragraph sure you can think those are more interesting, no issue in that. But you also agreed that in the same line of though he said sales doesn't benefit gamers or change their enjoyment of it, it was also implied that what MS shared would.

This thread and some others he have been in recent past was both sales and review, which both he said he doesn't care. I know there are a lot of people that doesn't care much about sales (even if this is the core of the site), there are others that left when the numbers stopped showing, etc. But you also agreed that to enter sales thread to say you don't care about sales doesn't make much sense even more when that is to disregard the topic in hand.

I entered the thread to see what was the PR for the sales of the game, but it was just some work around that doesn't help us even estimate what were the real sales which is a shame. Because for the X1 even if they didn't gave any numbers they at least said it improved WW after X1X (also doesn't clear if it's revenue or units). Here and in SoT they make it in a way that is really impossible to guess what is sale, what is in X1, etc. Which being the core of the forum and also the thread for discussion doesn't help much.

I haven't take it seriously, and last I remember people in general doesn't even really are capable of comprehending big numbers (which of course they could make easier saying gamers have had 6 snacks and how many zombies each, because there you can directly compare with yourself instead of dividing per the 1M users all the time).

It's PR fluffy and just as you can have fun reading it, others will have fun on seeing how it was made to not tell what they really wanted to see.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."