You can't believe trump won?

[Nem]

DonFerrari said:

Nem said:

Tyranny of the majority is a nonsensical idea. If it's what the majority wants, by definition isn't tyranny. Tyranny is to opress the people. If the people are in a majority agreement it isn't tyranny. It's a ridiculous concept.

The fact that a rule was created to devalue the vote of some is what makes it non-democratic. The essence of democracy is that everyone has an equal voice, no matter the gender and the race aslong as they are mature enough age wise to exert it. Equality is the essence of democracy. Egalite, fraternite, liberte.

How terrible is the idea, that since one party gets more votes in an area that area should be worth less? It's a corrupt way gain power. The will of the people is what democracy is. If you corrupt that with these ridiculous sub rules to influence the results, it's no longer democracy. 

What does that have to do with the topic? 

First, Portugal is a much older country than the US, and it had a revolution to throw out Salazar's regime. It then created one of the best democratic systems in the world. There's only things to be proud of.

Second, you mean YOUR population fled to Brazil. Cause that's what your population is, mixed with locals. Though again, i don't see what this has to do with anything.

And finally third, i call you on your BS. Portugal was not an enemy of Spain. You talk about this immigration wave like it was gigantic, but in truth it hardly even registers in history books (and probably had more to do with WW2). I am pretty sure it doesn't compare to the immigration we see in the opposite direction these days.

So killing the Jews in German wasn't a tyranny against the minorities just because the majority accepted it? Coooool man. Having a equal voice is what made the electoral system, so that the concerns of minorities get equal opportunity to be heard.

1 - Sure portugal is much older, have made a lot of colonization and exploration, made a lot of war, a lot of mistakes... Salazar dictatorship didn't end until the end of the 70's... while USA "not democratic" have been running fine for over 200 years.

2 - Nope, I'm not descendant of Portuguese, and the Portuguese in question fled in the last century so not that much mixed as the ones you are implying from the colonization. That have to do with you demonizing USA democracy while Portugal have a child democracy compared to centuries of non-democracy. But if you so much want to know my ascendancy I'm 3/4 from ex-slaves (probably with some unknown portuguese and spanish blood in between) and 1/4 Italian.

3 - Call BS all you want, Portugal during the last 500 years have had several conflicts and antagonism with Spain. It may not register in your books, but in Brazil the wave of immigrants during Salazar and Franco regimes was quite expressive. I inclusively have a lot of friends of recent portuguese heritage.

First, your example is ridiculous and doesn't even warrant a reply cause it's not even closely related.

In democracy, all voters get representatives in the assembly, including minorities. The president is their representative in the world and its chosen by majority.

I'm not gonna continue the other topic. It's off topic and it's just you trying to throw personal attacks at my valid criticism. But, i will say this, the US is a flawed democracy as it's catalogued today. It was never a democracy. It was and is a Republic.