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GoOnKid said:
Maxosaurus-rex said:

But your side absolutely wants to go to the extreme. So much they completely ignore all common sense and logic. Then they idioticly bring up foreign nations which America has no possibility to imitate/replicate nor do those nations even support their views.

I mean, here we go. Your side talks about banning semi automatic assault rifles and limit clip sizes. Then this guy comes in with a weapon completely legal in Australia and does extensive damage. Your side ignores acid attacks, knife attacks, car attacks and bombings to come to your conclusions. My 7 year old can seriously make the bomb from the Boston bombing right now easily.

Your side makes boogeymen out of the unrelated persons. 

Simple question, ok? No siding, no assuming. Just a simple question.

Do you think that too many people die because of guns, yes or no?

No. Most (vast majority) gun deaths are suicide. There's cheaper, easier, more effective and less gruesome ways to off yourself. Drink a bunch of antifreeze. No mess. No regulation. Sit in a car in a garage and fall asleep. 

And then a good portion of the murders are gang related.ya know, the ones that will ignore stricter gun control measures. 

 

Then as previously stated, the countries that have strict gun regulations don't even support the people's argument well. Australia wasn't even that successful with only removing about 1/5th of their firearms. Those firearms are still easily available legally. And they had to just have an amnesty program because illegal gun ownership was on the rise and they were getting homemade firearms turned in.

The fact is, Australia is a poor model for the US. They aren't bordered or near some of the most violent  and bloody countries with the most present drug cartel (https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/02/15/586014065/deaths-from-gun-violence-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world ). They are an island. They have the lowest population density around the world and they have an extremely homogeneous population. They also have much stricter rules on just about EVERYTHING else and censorship.

The UKs gun ownership is on the rise. Both legally and illegally too. 

These posts are just knee jerk emotional responses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/?utm_term=.4638311b1b11

 

That's despite loosening gun control over the years 

Last edited by Maxosaurus-rex - on 20 May 2018