I wish Overwatch had flopped sales-wise

[Lucca]

Burning Typhoon said:

Zkuq said:

Have you considered that if something something sounds too stupid to be true, you might have misunderstood it? In this case, the person here seems to wish Overwatch failed so it couldn't popularize lootboxes and the lack of campaign. It's not the consumers but the publishers that started liking lootboxes and thinking not having a campaign is viable (at least particially) because of Overwatch. That, I think, is the argument here. In other words, the argument seems to be that without Overwatch, we wouldn't have those two things or at least they'd be smaller.

Again, those aren't selling points.  No, I didn't misunderstand anything, because it blatantly ignores that overwatch has selling points, and things that make it a fun game that people want to play, just to push his agenda.  Even if overwatch wasn't the first.  How long did it take you to finish H1Z1's campaign?  How about Jetpack Joyride?  There's lots of games that don't have an offline campaign,  but I'm not going to search through google to tell you about the ones that came before overwatch.  We all know they exist.

It also ignores that overwatch, like I said, give away stages and characters away as free DLC and is updated and patched regularly.  So if a company looks at one part of overwatches strategy, and only sees the "how can we charge consumers," without the other aspect of why should consumers see value in the practices, then maybe I did consider that it was a silly comment.  And my verdict is that I completely understood it, and it was a silly comment.  People say silly things.  That was one of them.

People bought Overwatch because it's a great game, no doubt. But publishers looked at its success and thought "Hey, I guess consumers don't care if we do these anti-consumer things then!". Do you understand what I'm saying now or do I have to spell it out for you?

H1Z1 and Jetpack Joyride (are you really mentioning a mobile game?) are not $60.

As I mentioned, Overwatch has many great things about it. They don't excuse it having loot boxes and no campaign though.