Sony Not Having Traditional E3?

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Intrinsic said:

thismeintiel said:

  "In fact, the PS1 and PS2 had better sales, 21M and 20M respectively, the years before they launched their successors" It has nothing to do with decline, though, a starting decline can single to them it is time to move on.  It has to do with striking while you are still hot.  I mean, if we use your logic, Sony should not have launched the PS2 and PS3 when they did.  And PS+ really changes nothing.  Sure, its extra revenue, but Sony can lose those customers just as fast as they gained them.  And if they stall for too long, with 2013/14 customers wanting new, more powerful HW, and someone comes out with a better product, they are more likely to lose some.  Just like people who claimed the Gamerscores and "superior" Live would keep 360 owners with MS.

Again, you are still talking about the PS2/3 with total disregard of the context wof their launch. With the PS2 seag had already released the dreamcast a year prior and nintendo were due to release the gamecube in the same year sony released the PS2. Sony couldn't just sit on their laurels and wait it out. With the PS3 again, in this case MS had already released their console a year earlier too. You are looking at sales but thats the wrong thing to look at unless they are really bad. 

In actuality, theer isn't actually a precedent of launching first by sony ever. If you really think about it. PS1 a year after the saturn, PS2 a year after the dreamcast, PS3 a year afetr the 360, PS4 a year afetr the wiiU. Waiting a year isn't stalling for too long, cause even though they released the PS3 a year late it didn't stop them from still beating the 360 in the end, even though the PS3 was ridiculously more expensive at launch. And just look at the NS, go tell them they should have launched in 2013 as opposed to 2017  after looking at them eating into the XB1s lead.

 

You yourself don't give relevant context.

The PS1 was Sonys first console. Prior to the decision to go rogue there was all this fuss with Nintendo and Sega. There was no year after Saturn. They released only a few month apart in the west (Japan only a few weeks). And only because Sega preponed the launch of the Saturn (west), which cost them dearly (retailer boycott). Sega wasn't in good condition even before this and of course Sony was aware of their situtation. Sony knew they were in a good position and took full advantage of it (299.-). Because they could do what Sega (and Nintendo) could not. But "a Microsoft" can. That is why SEGA threw the towel and Nintendo doing evasive maneuvring since the gamecube.

Yes, the PS3 did beat the 360 at the end. But at what cost? We all know at what cost.

"You are looking at sales but thats the wrong thing to look at unless they are really bad."

What was really bad was Sony finances thanks to the very expensive PS3. Very expensive for them, not the customer. Why pretend that never happened and say "O sony can wait, they ve nothing to fear". That's nonsense.

 

"And just look at the NS, go tell them they should have launched in 2013 as opposed to 2017  after looking at them eating into the XB1s lead."

What are you even...

Nintendo did launch a console in 2012. Which wasn't very successful to put it mildly. That is why they chose the next economically viable moment to re-enter and try again. And that was not 2013. 2014. 2015. Or (the first half of) 2016.