| EricHiggin said: MS didn't have that luxury in 2016, and yet they waited. I have to assume that they knew this gen was long over and the best thing to do was to get back on track and pick a path and follow it. It looks like the path they chose was power, with a little more first and third party investment to go along with it. The only way MS can make sure they keep the crown and continue that path, is to either highly subsidize the hardware alongside a PS5 launch, or wait and make sure 'XB2' is more powerful 6-12 months later. XB will be able to keep the large majority of the spec heads this way, other than pure PS fans. It may not be a sales stat winning combo, but even MS knows that going up against PS5 is going to most likely be a beating if PS doesn't screw up. It's going to take time to make XB a worthy competitor again other than simply buying up third party exclusivity, and that is a feeble short sighted attempt at best. |
You can't possibly be comparing 2016/2017 which were iterative consoles on an already existing platform to a new platform launch. Of course Ms could wait then, as it didn't matter to sony if they wouldn't have the most powerful bx on the market anymore. At the end of the day either decision hasn't made any difference whatsoever. MS can't wait at the start of a gen though. They simply do not have the same kinda market presence sony has across territories. If MS gave sony a years head start, by the time the the XB2 is released sony would have ammassed a 10-15M strong lead already and wold even be in a position to price slash their own console cutting the legs rfrom under MS.
Honestly, the only way MS gains market share over sony (as it has always been) is if sony messes their own shit up. Like say put in a cell APU or come in at $200 more than the XB2.
| EricHiggin said: 7nm very well may be a "problem". If a PS5 launches late 2019 and is 7nm, it's either going to cost $499 without a doubt, or it's going to cost $399 and be extremely weak performance for next gen. If they want to launch PS5 late 2019, it most likely will be on 12nm or 10nm. It may require a larger PSU like Pro has depending on the performance they go with, but it would give them a huge lead going into next gen. A 7nm slim doesn't have to wait 3 or 4 years. They also can wait until 7nm is console yield ready, because PS4 is a money printer that doesn't run out of ink, but that would also somewhat help MS and 'XB2'.
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Sony can wait..... if the PS5/XB2 is within 5-20% of each other performance wise and launch within 3 months of eachother, sony wins the gen. Just imagine a launch year (first 12 months after launch) with games like Horizon 2, GOW2, Spiderman 2 and whatever else they get from japan.... Maybe even GT7. Ms simply will not have an answer to a year like that.
| EricHiggin said: If PS5 launches late 2019, MS would be just as crazy to launch 'XB2" alongside it, considering XB1X would have only been on the market for 2 years. XB launches have basically been in 4 year intervals, so 2 years would be a massive gamble and could hurt them worse than waiting. Until MS gets the XB brand back in a 360 level competitive mindset, they might as well just stay out of the way, because trying to fight someone with a broken arm is only going to lead to getting your other one broken. Waiting a year or two after PS5, could allow 'XB2' to launch with some future tech that's just not ready yet, especially price wise, which could give them a big hardware advantage, depending on whether that same hardware could be utilized in a PS5 Pro soon after or not.
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Lol... well, nothing will be worse than MS giving sony a years head start. And if the PS5 is on a 7nm APU in 2020..... it doesn't matter if MS waits a year, they will also be on a 7nm APU and the difference in power will not be more than 20%, which won't even matter cause both consoles will be running games natively at 4k. At that rez the margins of differentiation become a lot harder to spot. If MS is gonna wait then they might as well pull a nintendo and wait till like 2022 - 2024 when we could be seeing 4nm chips. Then their XB2 wwould be like twice as powerful as a PS5 and on par with the PS5pro. PS5 would probably be sitting at like 60M consoles sold though.
