Sony Not Having Traditional E3?

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Intrinsic said:

thismeintiel said: 

No, he's completely wrong.  7nm is going to be ready to sample later this year.  Now, supposedly that tech is not going to be used in creating a Vega GPU for the masses.  It's starting out in the Radeon Instinct, which is supposed to compete with Intel's Tesla line. Though, it will be used in next year's Navi.  Considering Sony is working closely with AMD on their next GPU, which has been rumored to be based on some Navi work, but not exactly a Navi GPU, I wouldn't be surprised to see 7nm used on somewhat of a hybrid, like the one used in the Pro.

You know what a sample is right? And even when tehey go into volume production you know thats mostly only going to be in tehir GPUs right? You know why? We can argue this down from now till we both turn purple, but by next year 7nm chips won't be mature enough to go into consoles. Unless sony/MS are willing to bite a bullet on costs. Or gimp some otrher area of the hardware to accomodate the higher costs of their APUs due to poor yeilds.

Totally agree, and even if Microsoft/Sony were willing to bite the bullet on costs it would still be a hassle for them to use 7nm next year - especially considering they can wait a few years, eventually adopting an architecture PC developers would be familiar with.

Also people have ridiculous expectations of next gen - how could they come out in the next year or so, have a 12TF GPU (floating point operations by the way are an awful perfomance measure), be affordable and have developers on board (day one) all at the same time? Seriously, folks need to relax their expectations, Sony and Microsoft aren't miracle workers!