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Ck1x said:
RuiOrey said:

Man, for me Trump...not gonna comment directly.

My point is other: Trump is a product of your divided and binary America. You just read this forum to see that.

Let me try and give you an example to illustrate my point:
- everyone is discriminated in one way or another.
Some less, some more, some winning in the middle.
Valid points on all sides.
Either be gay, women, white male, atheists,christians, musilims, white males, african americans.
There is not 0% discrimination in each one of this cases.
And every case discrimination is done in a different way.


What happens right now in your debate:
-Republican: white males are discriminated. Fuck black and women. (add propaganda insult: snowflake)
-Democrat: Black and women are discriminated. Fuck white male and christian. (add propaganda insult: deplorable)
Binary division.

You need to get out of this loop that blocks evolution of ideas and society.
Work all in getting the balance.
There are extreme white male, feminist defenders and so on.
But there are valid arguments on both sides and you all know that.

Listen to each other and think what is right in each type of discrimitation. What that cannot happen to women and white male, for example.
Then filter what i whining on BOTH sides - there is whinning on both sides.

And start solving your differences out.
You are not enemies.
We human need to feel we are on the RIGHT SIDE.
Both are right sides. If half of you are on one side and the other half on another, you need to come together in some way to not fall into weakness.

 

Most of politicians are trash. On most of political parties. Your party is no different.


Listen to other side. Question the other side. 
Question your side also.

In my view, America biggest and most dangerous problem is not white privilege or sjwarriors. 
Those are just fuel for the fire.

And the fire is the binary division of its people.


Cheers

Its so weird to see statements like this, because I keep wondering where are white men being pushed to? They are doing very well as a whole in our country and in fact many are in power and making the laws that govern millions of people that don't even look like them. I understand Americans wanting equal opportunity seems like white men being pushed aside but its absolutely not the same thing. 

Man,
maybe I didnt explained me correctly.

What I mean is there is always some kind of accusation or pointing finger. I think some white males see themselves afraid or with pointed fingers by telling them they are privileged and they reject feminism or black lives matter stuff. I think we need to be careful also to the way we speak and point the fingers with them and assuring no one is going to nullify white men identity.
Sometimes they only caricatural propaganda videos with hysterical people reclaiming that white men suck.
And that is something we need to be careful to assure is not the norm.

I think feminism and black lives matter or whatever movement that fights prejudice and privilege should exist and have a loud voice. We just need to understand each other. In some sense what I mean is that I understand that white men as me can be afraid of seeing them accused of being a crap. Sometimes that is also used to manipulation.

It is used also as manipulation of course the other way around.

We just need to be serious and talk with truth and respect and without moralisms and mocking.
And stop being so binary on your conversations.
We need to seek consensus. 
There is too much propaganda around.

F. Scott Fitzgerald: "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless and yet be determined to make them otherwise."