AR/VR will be more than niche and go beyond gaming. VR arcades and the cutting edge.

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John2290 said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

I have quite literally been playing VR for decades now.  I was optimistic about it when I first tried Dactyl Nightmare, and it was also pretty cool when i played the Aladin VR game at Disney Quest.  But also Nintendo's biggest flop was the Virtual Boy.  VR has been around for decades now and has been tried in many ways.  Even at it's best it is extremely costly to develop for, and considering Disney Quest closed down, I doubt all the money they put into VR was really worth it.

Then this AR game, Pokemon Go, comes around and becomes a huge success without hardly even trying.  It is so much easier to make money with AR.  The business reality is that AR games are going to be the focus in the future much more than VR games.

Pokemon GO is a Augmented camera, a tech demo for true AR and magic leap like technology.

Ah, this is 90's VR argument is getting extremely old in many ways, there is video evidence of the people who tried to bring VR forth that they knew they could not get consumer VR for 200 quid without causing people to puke against there promises and that they got trapped in those promises. They lied. They knew the tech wasn't there yet. To call anything before current VR (2012, DK2) anything less than a massive bust would be false but to actually compare todays PCVR or even PSVR against that tech, that's fucking laughable, it shows you haven't tried new tech to compare which makes everything you're saying two decades out of date and completely redundant.

Because you like Pokemon GO has nothing to do with VR and is only a product of the tech you have in your pocket, if it's the most advanced phone it's most likely available to you on some plan that requires no real financial investment and pales in comparison to the AR tech that has been teased and needed for true AR , like the magic leap/Holo lens. It's like commenting on the Dactyl Nightmare as you mentioned and saying, hey, this is the future. 

You keep pushing these "realities" like they are fact but it's clear you have no interest in the matter and you're just parroting what many other people who have said many, many time, else you'd have a better argument than their exact words. As I keep saying, AR proper, as in the magic leap and MS holo lens will take the business route first like PC's in the 80's and 90's and grow strong enough that way to grow a consumer presence. if you are put off by the high cost of todays VR which attempted to boldly cross straight onto the consumers plate and find it inaccessible you will certainly be a lot older by the time AR takes off proper and if and when AR grabs those games then VR will most likely already have had something like them and worked out much of the kinks paving the way for dev teams but like video games (and vr) now the quality, high end experience isn't going to be on your phones screen, that's not even AR like I said but an augmented camera.

Try current VR, look into how long it'll take proper AR technology to get around to you in a package you'll be able to buy into on a consumer level and maybe I'll continue this. Otherwise, go back to pokemon GO.

Ok, after reading your posts now I see you are focusing more on the tech side than on the business side.  That's cool.  The tech itself is pretty interesting.  I've enjoyed VR games myself.