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HollyGamer on 03 May 2018
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twintail said:
HollyGamer said:

You don't need me to prove the tech is exist on the market. Just read the progress of tech on the Internet , use your logic here, Switch is the prove and PS4 is the prove and AMD 7 nm is in the horizon. SONY has the screen tech, the batteries tech, the controller tech. As far as my concern PS4 Portable is not a rocket science, and not beyond people imagination. 

Every gaming market are connected on one line , which is gaming. And then there are other to be considered, Console gamer, Portable gamer, and both.  And also casual and hardcore. You can pick all of the line whatever you like it's share the same market "GAMING". Of course focusing on one connecting line like Casual or Hardcore has the benefit. But Switch has prove it the other way around or even if it's not prove the other way around, they are still making a lot of revenue. 

What i am saying untaped market are the hybrid Market and dedicated market  that only Nintendo rulez alone. 

PSP market exist not because of games, but because they released PSP on the market and followed by the games. PSP  was created because  portable market already exist created by  Nintendo .  PS Vita also created because of the demand of powerful portable on the market. It doesn't matter if they play the same games or not.  Switch also exist because it has Zelda and other cross gen games or even port games. Why the Vita is failed it's not because they are lack of exclusives  but because a lot of thing, if i mention one by one will take new thread to make. 

I am not saying Marketing research for PS5 are the same with PS4 Portable. They are totally different but in every Marketing research they always have a general research about what consumer want from PS device and what are the consumer though about the competitor like Switch and Xbox. And in Japan i believe (i don't need to prove ) people would prefer to buy Switch over PlayStation. Hell even Vita out sold Nintendo Wii U LOL.  Around the world maybe 50% consoles and 50% portable, but PS4 portable is the hybrid consoles for the 50% portable market and 50% console market. 

Well we can assume the market exist because we are not being serious here LOL. But my prediction are based on SONY habit on releasing product and Switch success in the market. Also gaming trend and tech improvement around the world. Honestly nobody knows what SONY want and what will they release in the future but i can assure u , they will not created something new , they will created something that already exist on the market , something like VR,  AR, Cloud gaming, or Portable/hybrid product in the market. 

 

 

Actually I do, because I am failing to see where the tech exists for this to (1) be affordable and (2) support a reasonable battery life. If something like Zelda is 3 hours on a Switch, good luck running something like Horizon for any adequate level of time.

The handheld market is in constant decline. And the hybrid market isnt an actual market that exists by itself. For all we know the majority of people are buying a Switch as a console, or as a portable. Or both. Is there evidence to prove one way or another (its called, research)

Dude, please don't delude yourself. If any of these portable devices were just playing inferior versions of their console counterparts there is no evidence they would have still sold the way they did. Part of the market that exists for devices like the PSP, Vita, DS and 3DS is that they have software that actually requires owning the device to have. And that is why a PS4P is not remotely the same thing. Even if you can argue that there exists some mythical portable only gamer (in the age of smartphone gaming), we already have the evidence to prove that decline has been happening to this market for years. The 3DS still hasnt hit PSP sales numbers. And the PSP was nowhere near what the DS did.

I mean... if you are just going to say that you are not being serious here about your arguments, its no wonder they are so poorly thought out.

i am sure a PS4P will happen, but I doubt its within the timeline shared by the OP. Its way too optimistic to be a realistic indicator of what Sony will do next. If it does happen then thats great.

I am not saying i am agree with the OP  timeline. It can be in a year or two years after PS5 release  or at the same time as PS5 release date or  maybe in the middle of PS5 life times. The tech   need to mature first and  the chip die size and other factor. need to be considered. But it will not take a long time to get the point where Horizon will be playable in portable mode like Zelda was. Remember how Switch able to preform better performance then Wii U in portable mode in less then 6 years. And PS4 portable just need to match or slightly match PS4 . 

I am not deluded my self , Switch are sold because of Zelda a cross gen title, hell  multi platform titles that available on Wii U as well. And also many PS4 users tend to have multiple PS4 at their house. And also Indies are sold a lot in Switch more then in steam.  If SONY releasing PS4 portable or even PSP 2 , why not? It doesn't means it has to come out in near future, i am just assuming Switch Success might intrigue some of SONY investor and management to try again.