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pokoko said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Okay, but you could say that for any game. That's just a way to throw criticism out the window (and before you say "I'm only talking about the haters!", my entire point is that you're too comfortable setting aside a "crowd" of people). 

The irony must be lost. 

"Detroit: Become Human is going to generate a ton of negativity from the expected "omg it's not a game it's a movie" crowd who cannot stand the idea that others might like something they do not. I don't think that counts because they've already made up their minds that they'll hate it."

You act as though being part of said crowd is mutually exclusive with not understanding how others can enjoy such a product, and then simultaneously shut down the crowd by saying that it doesn't count cause "they've already made up their minds that they'll hate it."

In other words, you can not understand why those people might not like such a game, or that there might in fact be legitimate reasons for it, and thus you just act like the ideas are ludicrous. 

How are you not understanding this?  I'm talking about people who attack games they know they won't like because they have a problem with those games existing.  Are you defending that?  "Cinematic games shouldn't be made because I don't like them" might be a "legitimate reason" in your mind but I think it's ridiculous and I have zero problem telling you that.

And I'm saying it's clear you are just generalizing a crowd to make a point about how such an idea should not be given any credit to it. As well as the inherent irony in your statement. 

And, no matter how much you use the words "attack" and "with those games existing" it doesn't enrich your point, it just makes the wording sound more villainous to drive a narrative. In real life application, what that means is you don't want people who most likely know they won't like a game to criticize it. Unfortunately, people can make very valid points and criticisms while still generally being against a certain type of game. It's not always the case of course(see: the Souls games), but it happens and it shouldn't be discouraged based on principal. 

I've actually never heard "Cinematic games shouldn't be made because I don't like them" so more than likely you're just exaggerating the "crowd" of people who actually have legitimate gripes with such a genre. 

Last edited by AngryLittleAlchemist - on 29 April 2018