The Football Thread - 17/18 Season

[pastro243]

Ka-pi96 said:

pastro243 said:

No no, it's kind of a long story but in short, I read that in Velez Sarsfield there was a player in the 60s who's last name was Simeone, they called him "Cholo". Later Diego Simeone played for Velez and was called Cholo because of the original one

 

Cholo is a weird term. It can be insulting or not. It's used in some places of south america to refer to mixed people with darker skin. I live in Chile and we don't use it much, so I don't know much about it's usage. But it can be used in a friendly way by people too. Kinda like in south america it depends on many things if "negro" is an insult or not (like words/insults/dimminutives added, tone, who says it, etc...), you know racial sensibilities are very dependant on the context in different countries and cultures.

 

The original Cholo aparently was called like that because of his mixed apearance. I'll just tell you everyone in the media calls this Simeone "Cholo" and no one thinks of it as a racist thing(from Spain and all of South America).

Oh. Seems a bit strange to give him the same nickname as another guy just because of the same surname and the fact they played for the same team. You'd think he's been successful enough to be known by his own name or have his own nickname by now rather than one borrowed from someone else.

Yeah, I guess by now he is way more famous. But the original guy was from the 60s and he was a classic player from the club, when Simeone made his debut he was a kid and they called him "Cholito" (little Cholo would be a way to say it), guess no one ever bothered to change it 

 

Ot, Arsenal scored, but I still think Atlético will take it