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o_O.Q on 15 April 2018
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the-pi-guy said:
o_O.Q said:

" You know, the elimination of private industry?"

how can industry be private when its under government control?

 

They privatized some industries, and retained others in government control.  So no, it's not really as simple as they took over all the industries.    

o_O.Q said:

socialists aren't pushing for socialised health care? state funded education? government control of services like water? gun control? employment for all (with caveats of course)

lets clarify something here first though socialism of the imaginary type where everyone is equal and no owns anything and there's no crime etc etc etc is just that - imaginary... if i proceed to ask you how you would put such a system in place your inevitable answer would have to be through government policies which obviously kind of destroys the whole everyone is equal part... so lets put that to the side

i'm talking about the practical real world policies that socialists of our era are pushing and i don't think anyone can seriously deny that its policies that fall in line with many of the policies hitler put into place

Even if you want to conflate Nazism with socialism, you have to accept that there are different varieties of socialism.  Otherwise you're being realistic.  

"They privatized some industries"

without any government control? under a dictatorship? so you mean to tell me that those businesses under this oppressive regime could've done anything they wanted even if it was against the policies of the government?

could they, for example, put some jewish people on the board of directors do you wager?

 

"Even if you want to conflate Nazism with socialism"

what do you think of the policies i gave? were those socialist policies or not?

 

"you have to accept that there are different varieties of socialism"

i guess, but generally it either seems to be people dodging around through the use of semantics or imaginary concepts such as the elimination of hierarchies without government force