VGPolyglot said:
o_O.Q said:
"Also, that "we are socialists" quote? It was not even said by Hitler:"
wait hang on... are we now at the stage where we are denying that his party was the national socialist workers party?
have we really reached that depth of denial? lol
"Also, Nazi Germany privatized key industries too:"
which they controlled so what?
"Also, the unemployment number has some extreme caveats: women, Jews and men aged between 18 and 25 were not included in the statistics:"
the men 18 -25 were conscripted into the military
jews were unemployed for obvious reasons
and finally with regards to women yes initially women were encouraged to have families over taking jobs but this changed eventually
"The Nazis drive for women to be domesticated soon faded and shifted. As World War II started and began to escalate more and more men left their homes and jobs. Facing job shortages the Nazis began to encourage women to fill the gap left by men. Young, especially single women, were eager to fill factory jobs even when faced with such blatant contradictions in policy. The Nazis were simultaneously promoting the idea of mother hood, and the ideal German woman whilst encouraging the filling of jobs to support the war effort. Because of this the Nazis were unable to bring an adequate number of female workers back into the labor force. Only about 30% of women returned to employment during the war."
the fact remains, however, that overall the policies of the nazis were socialist in nature and implementation
they are the same policies - state funded educatation, socialised health care, government control of businesses etc etc etc that are being pushed by the socialists of today
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No, I didn't deny that, I was questioning your reliability when you list a quote attributed to Hitler that was not even said by Hitler. And I don't understand your so what, because that's a key part of socialism? You know, the elimination of private industry? And no, those are not policies that are being pushed by socialists, if they are it's only as a temporary measure, you're equating social democrats with socialists.
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" You know, the elimination of private industry?"
how can industry be private when its under government control?
" And no, those are not policies that are being pushed by socialists"
wut?
socialists aren't pushing for socialised health care? state funded education? government control of services like water? gun control? employment for all (with caveats of course)
lets clarify something here first though socialism of the imaginary type where everyone is equal and no owns anything and there's no crime etc etc etc is just that - imaginary... if i proceed to ask you how you would put such a system in place your inevitable answer would have to be through government policies which obviously kind of destroys the whole everyone is equal part... so lets put that to the side
i'm talking about the practical real world policies that socialists of our era are pushing and i don't think anyone can seriously deny that its policies that fall in line with many of the policies hitler put into place
