The PS4 really should have backwards compatibility!

[The_Liquid_Laser]

Pemalite said:

 

The_Liquid_Laser said:

If you don't think that method is objective, then just look at the consoles that won each generation.

Winners that chose to forego BC: SNES, PS4
Winners that chose to include BC: PS2, Wii, GBA, DS, 3DS

 

That is 5 winners for it and 2 against it.  BC is strongly correlated with success.  You may not personally value backwards compatibility, but the data strongly correlates BC with success.

You are conflating separate issues entirely. And that is a logical fallacy.

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Conina said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

If you don't think that method is objective, then just look at the consoles that won each generation.

Winners that chose to forego BC: SNES, PS4
Winners that chose to include BC: PS2, Wii, GBA, DS, 3DS

 

That is 5 winners for it and 2 against it.  BC is strongly correlated with success.  You may not personally value backwards compatibility, but the data strongly correlates BC with success.

As much as I love BC in consoles... it doesn't seem to be a deciding factor for most people, especially nowadays (PS4 & Switch & Wii U).

If you include GBA as a winner (although it had no dedicated handhelds as competition), Switch should be included, too.

So it is more like:

Winners that chose to forego BC: SNES, PS4, Switch
Winners that chose to include BC: PS2, Wii, GBA, DS, 3DS

Losers that chose to forego BC: Saturn, DreamCast, GameCube
Losers that chose to include BC: PS Vita, Wii U

GBA had N-Gage as competition.  It is not much competition, but it is competition.  Switch will have PS5 and XBox4 (or whatever they call it) as competitors so it is too early to call it a winner.  And you left out a whole pile of losers.  There are tons and tons, but if I just point out Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and Sega, then it looks like this.

Winners that chose to forego BC: SNES, PS4 
Winners that chose to include BC: PS2, Wii, GBA, DS, 3DS

Losers that chose to forego BC: N64, Saturn, Virtual Boy, DreamCast, GameCube, PS3*, PS Vita
Losers that chose to include BC: Genesis, XBox360, XB1, Wii U

*the vast majority of PS3s sold were not backwards compatible with PS2 games.

The list of winners has a lot more consoles that are backwards compatible.  The list of losers has a lot more consoles that are not backwards compatible.  Sega and Microsoft never had a console that was #1 for the generation, but their most successful consoles were the Genesis and Xbox360, respectively.  Both of these consoles have backwards compatibility.  

The data clearly shows that backwards compatibility strongly correlates with success.  For a site dedicated to looking at sales data, there seems to be a surprising number of people who really resent what the data says.